Wednesday, July 21, 2010

News and Notes: Wednesday Edition

Below, some news and notes...
  • With all of the internet buzz generated about Jeremy Lin's potential signing with an NBA team (heavy emphasis on the word "potential"), the blog, "Lakers On Fire" writes:
[Lin] would still be a longshot to make the final roster, but it would be great for the Lakers to take a look at a developmental point guard finally. I just wish they hadn’t chosen someone from Harvard. As a Cornell grad, I can assure you that Harvard sucks… hard. Maybe we could give sharp-shooting Big Red alumnus Ryan Wittman a look instead? By the way, how slow is the news cycle right now that Jeremy Lin is actually some of the biggest Lakers news out there.
  • Speaking of Lin, an often overlooked fact. He was recruited to Harvard and initially coached by Frank Sullivan, Tommy Amaker's predecessor. Important to give the credit where the credit is due. Additionally, with all the talk about Cornell's senior class graduating, one has to wonder just how badly Harvard will miss Lin next season.

23 comments:

Anonymous said...

I thought Lin's signing to the Warriors was a done deal. Wittman, Foote, & Dale will always have been the best players in the Ivy for the group that graduated 2010, but I am not a fan of the above post. It sounds bitter. Lin should simply be congratulated; these attempts at contracts were not a competition and do not detract from Cornell Class of 2010's greatness. The only part of the whole thing what was a competition was the conference, and we won that. Unless you belong to the Calipari school of "we signed the most players so this is the greatest day in history".

Anonymous said...

"heavy emphasis on 'potential'..."

yeah, its not going to happen - especially since player of the year W(h)ittman doesnt get signed.

Then again, harvard won't be very good next year without him.

See what I did there?

Former Lin Hater said...

I agree...I hated Lin while being a student at Cornell and loved rooting against him, but I've been following him all through summer league and am happy, if not excited, to see him succeed. It's great that he has choices, and we could potentially see him playing some minutes in the NBA. And, in no way does it detract from the players we even more want to see succeed (and they will) from Cornell.

Anonymous said...

Lin's success proves that Harvard had more talented players and more talented team. Cornell's run was more due to luck, than talent. They did not have to face a healthy Harvard, which essentially assured them of another Ivy championship. A healthy Harvard squad would have won.

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

"Lin's success proves that Harvard had more talented players and more talented team. Cornell's run was more due to luck, than talent. They did not have to face a healthy Harvard, which essentially assured them of another Ivy championship. A healthy Harvard squad would have won."

SOME COMMENTS JUST DON'T EVEN WARRANT A SUBSTANTIVE RESPONSE. ENJOY YOUR STAY ON FANTASY ISLAND.

Anonymous said...

The word 'hate' gets on my nerves. I'm a Cornell fan and I didn't hate Lin and I'm more interested in whether or not Max Groebe is improving his ball handling skills this summer. I don't think any fan who was really immersed in what the team was accomplishing or is thinking about how they'll do next year has time to hate anybody.

BTW is Josh Figini the only person doing basketball-related stuff this summer? I'm displeased.

Anonymous said...

Frankly I'm rather tired of the "We would've won if we were healthy" excuse. (First of all, you're just speculating. Cornell's performance against teams like Kansas, Temple, and Wisconsin, plus Cornell's record-setting number of wins this season, say enough about that team's excellence. But back to the pathetic "injuries" excuse.) At some point, the fact that too many people on your team are injured begins to say something about your coaching & conditioning. And the fact that your team implodes due to a few injuries begins to say something about your depth.

Anonymous said...

CBRF: While I agree completely that Cornell would have still been far better than a healthy Harvard this year, was writing your response in caps lock really necessary?

Also, I agree with the earlier posted sentiments about the bitter-sounding comments about Lin. Sure, when Harvard played Cornell, I gleefully chanted "airball" with the rest of the crowd every time Lin touched the ball, but now that we're past that, I think we should support our fellow Ivy Leaguers. Lin's successes will only help the Ivy's reputation. Along with Cornell making the Sweet 16, this has been a great year for the Ivy.

Anonymous said...

"heavy emphasis on 'potential'..."

http://twitpic.com/27ddno

Tee-hee.

Anonymous said...

Lin OFFICIALLY, not POTENTIALLY signed with the Warriors, and I don't know why you can't just congratulate him for it and move on instead of searching the internet to find negative stuff about it.

I can't wait to read this blog during the season when Harvard and Princeton are a top the league, and you'll just be bitter and write:

"Though Harvard won the Ivy this season, it should not be forgotten that they did so with players who they acquired via recruiting violations. Also, this is Harvard's first Ivy title since 1946. It does not compare in significance to Cornell's Ivy three-peat, which was considered by many to be the best 3 seasons in Ivy history. That team had wins over Temple, Wisconsin, St. Johns, and Alabama and beat Harvard by 36 points, blah blah blah"

Seriously, you're going to lose all credibility if you're unable to move on and accept the fact that a massive decline is ahead for Cornell basketball. If you just keep posting the same stuff about the past 3 years that everyone already knows, people will just stop reading, especially if you're just going to blast and discredit any other teams other than Cornell.

Anonymous said...

Cornell 86 Harvard 50 enough said, Harvard came up small every chance they had

Anonymous said...

Just because you've only read about Figini playing basketball on the blog, doesn't mean you should assume that the rest aren't. As someone who knows many members of the team, I can assure you that they are all working hard this summer because they are hungry to win more next year

Anonymous said...

I don't think we should be bitter but I also don't understand why Lin's signing means anything and why we keep going on about how great it is for the League. I mean quite a few Ivy Leaguers have gone to the NBA before, Penn players have signed free agencies in the recent past... speaking of the Lakers for example, didn't a Penn player sign with them a few years back? I really don't understand why this is such a big deal and why we're supposed to robotically repeat, to be polite, that it is a great day for the League.

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

For a program that has never won an Ivy title (Harvard), this is good news. But doubt there is a Harvard alum out there that would rather have a fellow alum in the NBA over a couple of Ivy titles.

q'nis said...

I never thought I'd say this, but if Cornell does not win the title next year, I hope Princeton or Penn takes it over Harvard. You Harvard fans are fair weather, badly informed, arrogant and entitled. Princeton fans who have been on this blog and the board have been classy and knowledgeable. I can't say the same thing about Penn fans, but they still take the cake over H.

I think the blog's passive aggression toward the Lin signings was a little over-the-top, but you Harvard fans forget one thing....this is the CORNELL BASKETBALL BLOG. What do you expect, a Harvard tilt? If you want to read a blog devoted to bolstering Harvard's rep, read the Harvard basketball blog.

Here is the link: www.wedon'thaveablogbecausenobodycaredaboutharvardbasketballuntil2yearsago.com

Also, if Harvard does win the title, the blog will be completely justified to say that they did it with recruiting violations. They admitted to them. Your coach is a sleaze by IVY standards, that's all there is to it.

I'll be watching Lin and wish him much success. He was classy, level headed and talented. Much different than his fans.

Anonymous said...

Heh ... Lin's appeal is somewhat baffling considering everytime we see him, he's getting his ass kicked. Someone should give Geoff Reeves a contract to shut down Lin every time he's on the court.

Anonymous said...

Actually, if we don't win again, I would rather Penn or Harvard win over Princeton. Princeton is just boring, first of all; I can't tell any of their players apart; they all score 11 ppg. And Jeff Foote said he didn't like the way they acted one time that they won. And I don't think their fans are classy at all. I prefer Penn or Harvard fans who drop by for an occasional dumb comment to Princeton fans who register for the messageboard, boast about the CBI while we're trying to focus on the sweet 16, become offended when a Cornell fan says the Cornell team is better than Princeton's reminding us ad infinitum that Princeton beat us by 20 points last year, and in general just cause only mild yet long-term irritation, like a chronic disease.

Anonymous said...

It is sad that credit can't simply be given. Did Cornell have the better team over the past few seasons? Absolutely. See that? Credit given.

Did Cornell's players put up huge numbers during that span? Absolutely. Credit.

Is it safe to say that having a better surrounding cast helps good players be even better? Surely. See that? Honesty.

Is it realistic to say that, because you saw JL play 4-5 times in four years, that he isn't a better NBA prospect than Dale? Sadly, to some it is. To presume that we know more about talent evaluation than scores of NBA scouts and GMs is silly.

And violations? Lets keep the honesty going and talk financial aid.

Anonymous said...

I continue to read simply for the humor of it all.

Anonymous said...

Honestly? There were players who had even less of a surrounding cast, like Alex Barnett from Dartmouth, who still managed to win Ivy POY because they were THAT good. Please don't diss Louis Dale, he was the best guard in the Ivy, even that guy for Golden State of Mind who was the biggest Lin fan in the universe noted that Dale would probably be overlooked by scouts despite being stellar.

mrjames said...

"There were players who had even less of a surrounding cast, like Alex Barnett from Dartmouth, who still managed to win Ivy POY because they were THAT good."

Barnett was given a lot of credit toward his POY award for being on a team which was incredibly bad. Lin and Barnett's 2008-2009 numbers were almost identical offensively, while Lin had an edge defensively. Wittman had the best offensive numbers by far for that season and definitely deserved it most.

As for Dale, I think we've been over this by now. Four year standout contributor for the Big Red, but never a serious NBA prospect for a number of reasons. You can be a very good college player with skill sets that don't translate well to the NBA. I think he has the potential to be quite successful overseas.

Anonymous said...

If we don't win, I want Dartmouth or Columbia to win. Because wouldn't that be something. LOL.

Anonymous said...

I haven't had time to read past debates regarding Dale if they've existed, and, well I think Dale can handle high levels of competiton seeing how he held his own against 5 NBA first round draft picks when his "supporting cast" lost poise, but let's agree to disagree.