Thursday, July 29, 2010

Recruiting News

As Sports Illustated's Seth Davis points out this week, "For the most part, all the college coaches working the summer circuit know whom they want to recruit by now. Their presence is a way for them to advertise their interest to the players. Generally speaking, they come less to see and more to be seen." Below, some buzz around Ivy League recruiting circles. For a list of committed players to attend Ivy League schools, including profiles of incoming Cornell recruits, and a listing of Cornell's prospective recruiting targets, click here. For a list of general Ivy League prospective recruiting targets, click here. Please note that we update these lists daily.

Coast to Coast Recruiting reports that Kenyatta Smith (Flintridge Brea,CA, 6-7, F, has narrowed his college choices down to Harvard, Penn, Northwestern, and Vanderbilt.

The Jeffersonville News and Tribune notes that Evan Maschmeyer (Jeffersonville HS) Jeffersonville, IN, 6-4, G has visited Boston College, Columbia, Pennsylvania, Cornell and Harvard. He is also receiving interest from Wisconsin, Western Michigan, Eastern Illinois, Evansville, Ball State, Indiana State and Wright State.

MoSports.com notes that Nate Anderson (Teays Valley HS) Ashville, OH, 6-9, F, holds offers from James Madison, UNC-Wilmington, and Gardner Webb. Eastern Kentucky, Western Carolina, Toledo, Cornell, Northeastern, Princeton, and Florida International have also been in contact.

Rivals.com indicates that Michael Frazier (Plant HS) Tampa, FL, 6-4, G has offers from Harvard, Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Florida State, Virginia Tech, South Florida, Miami (FL) and Michigan.

Chad Haysbert (Center HS) Sacramento, CA, 6-8, F has interest from Princeton, Yale, Columbia, Pennsylvania, CSU Northridge, UC Santa Barbara, UC Davis, San Jose State, Boise State, Pacific, and Air Force.

Longji Yiljep (Westtown HS) Westtown, PA, 6-3, G was the MVP of the Hoop Group's Academic Elite Camp. He has interest from Yale, Rider, Columbia and Dartmouth.

12 comments:

q'nis said...

A couple of recruits have listed Boston College and Cornell as potential destinations. I'm not sure how other CU feel about it, but I think that is kind of bush league of Donahue. I am operating under the assumption that he started recruiting these guys at Cornell and now is recruiting them for his new school. Many coaches have clauses in their contracts that even explicitly state that that practice is not allowed. The JMU coach recently went to court over it. If these guys are clearly out of our league, and were only interested in Donahue, I'm ok with it. But if he is recruiting against his former school I think it's pretty unethical.

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

No comment on your main point, however, will confirm that Boston College did take in Gabe Moton, a former Cornell prospect who was not admitted to Cornell. B.C. also pursued Stephen Albrecht and Kevin Thomas, among others, but they ended up at Brown and Tulane respectively rather than B.C. or Cornell.

bison137 said...

VERY few coaches have a clause that prohibits them from recruiting players they recruited at a prior school. In fact some believe Brady's contract at Marist is the only one of its kind.

I doubt there has been any coach who left for a new job who didn't continue to recruit some of the same players, with the sole exception being if he dramatically changed levels. I guarantee Bill Courtney won't rule out recruiting guys he previously recruited at VA Tech (or VCU or UVA) if he thinks he has a shot at getting them and if they might qualify academically.

Anonymous said...

I think a lot of it is that Donahue is targeting good smart kids to try to build a similar type of program. These kids may list Ivy schools as interested early on in the recruiting process with no real intention of going there........just a thought.

q'nis said...

The clause is gaining more and more steam in coaching contracts, especially with the Marist case getting significant attention. Even if it's not in a contract, it is kind of a gentleman's rule.

Anonymous said...

Coaches can recruit kids that haven't committed. There is no gentlemen's agreement (in fact, it is understood that this happens and will happen). In fact, coaches can recuit Ivy commits because there is no National Letter of Intent ... it rarely happens. Coach Donahue did nothing wrong, by the letter or spirit of the law. And if he recruits against Cornell, so be it. He shouldn't back off recruiting a student-athlete who says he might be interested in Cornell. That's silly.

Anonymous said...

If we find that we are actually competing with an ACC school for basketball recruits I would say that is probably a good thing about the state of our program. Recruits who aren't bound by national letters of intent follow coaches who change jobs all the time and it is only natural for a recruit who was made to feel wanted by a particular coach to remain interested in such coach following a change. Ivy league schools (like all universities) compete for applicants all the time - this is really no different - it's about the recruit's decision. Unless a Coach is bad mouthing or deliberately trying to sabotage his former institution - which I think we all know is not Donahue's style or persona - I don't think there is anything unethical or of concern here. In fact, I think many of the posts on this blog focus too much on what others are doing (e.g., Harvard coach) as though it will cause great harm to our favorite school. We now have a solid foundation of a great program, students and alums are talking about basketball and making basketball games a great part of their Cornell experience (just like hockey games have been for decades) and by all accounts the future is bright with the guys we have - let's not sweat over the details regarding what other coaches are doing or particular decisions of recruits. For whatever it's worth, it sounds more to me like Donahue has struggled to quickly fill in roster slots for the upcoming year or two having been named coach after most ACC caliber top tier scholarship recruits already had committed to other schools. ACC coaches usually aim for at least a few 4 and 5 star recruits who can contribute immediately and it looks like some of the recruits Donahue has initially targeted are multi-year development type players.

q'nis said...

I'm not saying at all that Donahue should not recruit against Cornell in the future. I'm saying that if he started recruiting a kid to come to Cornell, and is subsequently recruiting him to B.C., that is kind of unethical. Sure, it's allowed. But it doesn't pass the smell test. Don't forget that Cornell's dollar paid for the initial recruitment of those kids.

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

The topic of discussion is interesting, but to date, Cornell has not "lost any recruits" to Boston College, unless you count Dennis Clifford, who really wasn't going to end up in the Ivy League, even if Donahue stayed at Cornell.

If B.C. wants to win the ACC, they need to match up with North Carolina and Duke and that means getting top 75 kids. They are not interested in the kids Cornell traditionally goes after.

It is still to early to determine Bill Courtney's approach.

Anonymous said...

love Donahue...always will

Anonymous said...

let's be real folks -- the ACC ain't competing with the Ivy League over recruits.

Anonymous said...

When John Thompson III assumed the top job at Georgetown in 2004, he took with him prized recruit Jonathan Wallace, who had planned to enroll at Princeton. Wallace started every game over the next four years at Georgetown and led the Hoyas to the Final Four his junior season of 2007.

Had Thompson stayed at Princeton and enjoyed the services of Jonathan Wallace for four years, I submit that, at a minimum, Cornell's 2008 Ivy title would have gone to the Tigers and, depending upon whether Princeton could have maintained momentum from what would have been the 2004-08 "Jonathan Wallace era" of Ivy basketball, our 2009-10 titles would have been highly challenged.

Indeed, one could argue that the single most important contributor to Cornell's "golden age" of the past three seasons is the departure of John Thompson to Georgetown and, most importantly, his taking Jonathan Wallace with him.

It's like the ESPN features on College Football Live which ask, "What if?" All Big Red fans should be eternally grateful that former Georgetown head coach Craig Esherick was fired in 2004 a week after getting a public statement of support from Georgetown president John DeGioia. Had Esherick been given one more season to turn the Hoyas around, Jonathan Wallace is a Princeton Tiger and Cornell hoops 2008-10 might look very different.

Amazing what follows from seemingly unrelated events, eh?