Wednesday, February 8, 2012

Cornell Gets Hoosier Jump Shooter

According to multiple public media sources, Robert Mischler (Mishawaka HS) Marian, IN, 6-2, G, committed to Cornell after visiting the campus the weekend of January 27-29, 2012. Before choosing Cornell, he was considering Navy, Army and non-Division I programs such as DePauw, St. Francis, Washington University in St. Louis and Hope College (Mich.). In addition to Navy, Mischler also received a nomination and offer to Army. He told the Indianapolis Star on his commitment, "It’s been my dream to play in an NCAA Tournament so to have that chance to play Division I basketball is great...It’s a great feeling.” Sources confirmed for The Cornell Basketball Blog that Mischler visited Navy and Army before committing to Cornell.

With Cornell graduating shooters Chris Wroblewski, Drew Ferry and Max Groebe in the spring and Mischler boasting a robust jump shot to go along with a 4.3 GPA (in an intensive honors program) and 1770 on the SATs, the commitment seems to fit in well with the Big Red's needs.

Mischler, known as a pure shooter and one of the best in the Hoosier State, averaged 12.9 points per game as a junior during 2010-2011 while shooting 41% beyond the arc. He was 2nd Team All Northern Indiana Conference as a junior and was selected to play in the 2011 Indiana Class Basketball All-Star Classic (48 juniors in State selected) where he netted a game high 25 points on a 5/7 shooting performance from beyond the arc. He was also the quarterback for the school's football team.

As a senior Mischler was a repeat 2nd Team All Northern Indiana Conference selection and was named First Team Academic All State. He was also was named to Hoosier Basketball Magazine's Top 100 Players in Indiana, selected to the Hoosier Basketball Magazine Top 60 Workout and named Senior Honorable Mention All-State. Mischler also scored 9 points on March 26, 2012 in the McDonald's Michiana All Star Game at Bethel (Indiana) High School. See recaps in the South Bend Tribune and WNDU (NBC News).

Indiana Recruiting Guide ranks Mischler #69 among seniors in Indiana. As a senior, he was also named 2nd Team All Area by the Elkhart (Indiana) Truth. Votes were cast by 14 area high school coaches and 4 members of the Elkhart Truth staff.

The Cornell Basketball Blog spoke with Mischler's high school coach, Rob Berger about the commitment.

Referring to Cornell's games in the last two seasons at Minnesota, Illinois and Penn State, Berger said, "Out here [in Indiana] we get the Big Ten Network and we've seen a lot of Cornell, how they run up and down the floor and shoot three-pointers. So we are familiar with their system. And I think in that type of system Robert is a good fit, it fits his game well." Berger explained, "He's just a terrific shooter, I mean literally unlimited range. He hits 25 foot shots for us, well out there." Berger continued, "Over the years, he's really worked on his athleticism, he's good at coming off screens, has a very quick release, but he's also improved in his ball handling and he's good at taking one or two dribbles, shot faking and pumping, and pulling up, has a good mid range game." "Bobby's shattered all of our three point shooting records with more to go [in the season]." On the other side of the ball he added, "I'd say he is 6-2 and about 170 pounds... he works hard defensively, he is our second leading rebounder."

Berger stressed however that Mischler needs to continue to work on creating his own shot, a developing part of his game and defending opposing shooting guards. He also mentioned that Mischler works well in his high school backcourt with Demetrius Jackson (class of 2013) who already holds offers to Michigan State, Notre Dame, Butler and Xavier among others. "Cornell spotted Bobby last summer in one of his tournaments... I'd say they really came into the picture in the late fall. [Cornell assistant coach] Mike Blaine was really the guy involved. He and Cornell's head coach [Bill Courtney] later came out again to see us in January [and evaluate Mischler] and watched one of our games... From there Bobby [visited Cornell and] told Navy he was going to commit to Cornell [and he subsequently cancelled a planned official visit to Annapolis]."

Expressing similar feedback, Midwest Basketball Academy's Rod Creech, Mischler's AAU coach, evaluated Mischler as follows:
"Robert Mischler is one of the most complete basketball players that I have ever coached. Even more impressive than that, he is an even better student (4.3 g.p.a. on a 4.0 scale), person, and leader. Robert is a 6’2 wing player that averaged 4 rebounds and 3 assists per game this season. His definite strength is his ability to shoot the ball. He has unlimited range and his ability to shot fake and take a pull-up jumper makes him very difficult to guard. He broke the school record for 3 pointers made this season with 64 while shooting 40% from beyond the arch. He also shot 76% from the free throw line while averaging 14 points per game. With another off-season of hard work, there is no doubt in my mind he will only continue to get better"
Below, a pair or highlight videos from two of Mischler's games this season:

(updated 4.10.12)


Anonymous said...

Based on his scholarship offers (which this blog has repeatedly said is the best measure of a recruit's talent level), this pickup is far below the rest of the incoming class and last year's class. Still, we need an outside shooter, and Courtney knows what he's doing on the recruiting front. Would have preferred his teammate, Demetrius Jackson.

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

You are correct.

In this situation, the staff was very happy (thrilled) with the class (Holt Harmon, Braxston Bunce and Nolan Cressler).

However, with the three senior guards graduating and the team's current shooting struggles this season, they obviously felt it necessary to add a pure shooter to the existing group.

Mischler is a guy who had the financial aid and academic profile that could slip into the class with ease.

In other words, he was a good fit at this point in the recruiting process, sort of a no-risk guy you must take in Cornell's situation.

Aside from his academics, the kid can flat out shoot and it never hurts to have a guy like that in your program.

In exchange, Cornell gave Mischler an opportunity to earn an Ivy degree and be a member of a Divison I team (where he really didn't have many other options).

Really a "win win" for everyone involved.

Anonymous said...

It seems like Mischler should have competed for a walk-on spot, rather than a guaranteed slot on a large roster. There really can't be an argument that he was overlooked by schools -- his teammate has been very highly recruited and obviously drew many scouts to all of their school's games. I'm sure he can shoot, but probably not much else, but this appears (admittedly based on limited information) as though he belongs at a D-3 school.

Anonymous said...

Since we're talking about recruiting, I really hope Harvard doesn't add Zena Edosomwan to an already good class. He could be a league changing talent, with scholarship offers from USC, UCLA, Texas, and others. Uggh.

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

Zena E. is dynamite, but I think Harvard is making a mistake not recruiting a true post player. They could be on the smaller side next season.

Anonymous said...

Would love to see Cornell grab an elite program-changing player with offers like the one's Zena E. has in his pocket. Love our incoming class based on what I've heard, but always want more

Anonymous said...

I think he has the potential to be a solid role player. Love these Indiana kids, they go hard and play the right way

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

The bottom line is that Cornell needed a shooter on the roster and Robert fills that void.

Harvard did the same a year ago with grabbing Ernest Rouse (who is no longer on their team).

Mischler is a tough kid, smart and can knock down shots. He gives Bill Courtney an option on a night when the team can't find the basket.

Guard play on this team next year will be fairly experienced and pretty deep led by Cancer, Gray, Cherry and MAA, along with Matthews, Scelfo, Cressler and now Mischler.

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

Cornell should be in the final 5 college choices for a few kids in the 2013 top 250.

Staff expected to have a good 2011, a better 2012 and its best year in 2013.

Anonymous said...

Mischler can do more than shoot.

He has a very high basketball IQ,is a good passer, and very hard worker.

He was likely headed to the Naval Academy to play there before Cornell got involved a couple of months ago. Navy cancelled a visit this month once Robert told them of his commitment to Cornell.

He will help Cornell given the style they play.

Anonymous said...

Cornell actually got a steal in landing Robert Mischler (Bobby Buckets as he is known in Northern Indiana). Robert is a great kid that comes from a great athletic family. Trust me, you will not be disappointed. This young man works harder than any athlete I've known. He's a coaches dream and an opposing teams nightmare. Wouldn't be surprised if he breaks Cornell's 3pt shooting records.

Anonymous said...

I think this is a great pick up. Maybe some of Donahue is rubbing off on Courtney. This is the type of player he recruited. Firsrt comparison that comes to mind is Adam Gore. This guy will come in and know his role.

With the graduation of Wroblewski, Groebe, and Ferry, we lose our reliable 3 ballers. Scelfo has potential but most everyone else would rather drive (or Courtney does at least). Getting the best overall players is great, but you have to put together the team like a puzzle. Things have to mesh and with an athletic drive and kick team like it looks like we will have, a knock down shooter is a must. Good get Courtney!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 1:56 is the author of the "Northern Indiana Basketball Blog."

Anonymous said...

No, I'm not the Author of that blog. I've known Robert since his FR year at Marian and have had the pleasure of coaching him.

Anonymous said...

Cornell's current 3pt record holder ranks 11th career-wise in the history of NCAA D-1 basketball.

If this young man can even approach that level of excellence, we will indeed be thrilled!

Anonymous said...

Get real -- Mischler is almost certainly a role player at best who comes off the bench to shoot a couple threes and sit down before his lack of athleticism and defensive shortcomings can be exploited. Ten years ago, he probably would have been a more prototypical Ivy player. Now, with revamped financial aid (for those who qualify) putting the Ivies on par with schools that offer scholarships, it's a different league. Look at the recent players Harvard, Penn, and Cornell have brought/are bringing in. An earlier poster mentioned Zena E. A player of that caliber wouldn't have gone near Harvard a decade ago.

This isn't a putdown, but Mischler's offers were overwhelmingly from DIVISION THREE schools, one low low D 1 school, and Cornell. There's nothing wrong with being a role player who can shoot daggers. But let's not over hype something that's really not there.

Anonymous said...

Does this have anything to due with balancing the teams AI (Academic Index)? Some of the players BC gets are not exactly Ivy academically. See

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

Offers are typically a very good indicator of an incoming players talent level.

But as we all know, Jeremy Lin had just one Division I offer and he is in the NBA.

At Cornell, Adam Gore had only one Divison I offer and he too turned out to be one of the best Ivy League players of the decade.

Just something to think about.

So yeah, there are exceptions. And regardless, Mischler fills a need for Cornell.

Anonymous said...

What happened to Harvard's Ernest Rouse? Standard "doesn't look like I can crack the line-up so I might as well crack the books"?

Usually kids make that decision after freshman year, not during the season.

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

Rouse was a freshman last season and left the program during the offseason.

Anonymous said...

Sometimes "team" players do get lost in the shuffle on AAU teams and do not show their talents, for whatever reason. Sometimes it is simply a numbers game where the AAU coach is showcasing 2-3 players and everyone else has to take a backseat.

And recruiting these days does start with AAU.

The schools that visited to see Demetrius Jackson are top major programs.

I know for a fact that the Cornell staff did their homework on Mischler and think he can contribute.

You have to admire their leadership in seeing for themselves what they were looking for and not just forming opinions based on what everyone else thinks.

Anonymous said...

Indiana HS basketball is on a different level than most states, period! Mischler was being looked at both Army and Navy as well, and not just for basketball too. Robert is one of those once in a lifetime players. I can't wait to tell you, I told you so, but you'll see for yourself when he gets to Ithaca. Yes he was under the radar because of Demetrius Jackson, but Coach Berger and the rest of the NIC Conference would tell you the same thing. One of the most feared players in the Conference is Mischler. I'm sorry, but I'll debate this anyday with anyone about Mischler's basketball iq and ability. The young man can flat out ball. Shooting statistics don't lie, and doing it against top notch competition nonetheless too!

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

Well, there you have it, the locals respect his game.

Cornellians should be excited to see what he can do for the Big Red.

And regardless, he is going to get a terrific education no matter what happens.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if any of these people are the same ones who didn't "believe" in Shonn Miller even though CBB kept telling them he was a good get for Cornell

Anonymous said...

It's not just the locals it was the state too! He played in the Indiana Jr./Sr. all star game last summer and had 25 points. And that's against guys that are now playing in the Big 10, MAC, and other various D1 conferences. To say Robert doesn't have the athletic ability is a joke. The young man was being looked at to play quarterback at Army too!

Anonymous said...

Shonn Miller is a completely different situation. He was heavily recruited by schools like Notre Dame.

I think it's safe to say based on these comments that the Indiana contingent routing for the Big Red just increased.

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

Shonn had about two dozen Division I offers and a ton of schools interested before he committed early.

Notre Dame and Miami (Fl) were on the phone with his coach weekly before he committed.

Anonymous said...

Shonn Miller rocks! But I guess this posting is about Mischler, who will come in with much lower expectations.

I guess this means one less roster space and a reduced possibility of a transfer?

Anonymous said...

He will be a very good fit for Cornell. Not to many people had heard of Dale, or wrobo before they enrolled, and they turned out to be trememdous shooters.

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

Wroblewski was highly recruited. Tommy Amaker offered him and recruited him VERY hard.

Anonymous said...

Tommy Amaker? Isn't he the coach that overlooked the only Ivy graduate to make the NBA in almost two decades? That guy?

Anonymous said...

He didn't run into Wroblewski's father at te ShopRite.

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

The New York Times did not tell the public everything that took place during that time period. There was more.

Harvard wanted him bad. And to this day, he is better than any guard they have on their roster.

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

Cornell does not have a "class average AI" the way Harvard uses it.
Thus, adding kids with high AIs does not help the class. So, no, this was not an "academic booster" addition.

Anonymous said...

CBB, would you mind clarifying what you mean by "class average AI" as it's either used or not used at Cornell and Harvard.

Does Harvard hold itself to some kind of minimum average for each class of recruits?

While that may be the kind of self-imposed restriction which Harvard might have used during the Frank Sullivan era, it's pretty clear that it's pretty much "no holds barred" in Cambridge these days. I can see Princeton and Yale embracing something like a "class average AI" threshold but not Harvard. Indeed, I don't see Harvard putting ANY limits on Amaker now.

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

In short, each Harvard recruiting class must meet a minimum average AI which is set by their single admissions office. By doing this, Harvard has some latitude to take low AI kids ("floor kids") which can be counter-balanced by "academic booster kids," prospects added to the class to raise the class average AI.

There is no clear rule violation here. Harvard is just manipulating the Ivy Group system to its advantage. Again, no rule violation. Although, the "academic booster" kids are typically cut (or gently nudged out) after a season in the program once they've served their purpose.

Cornell does not use an average AI for the class and the Athletics Dept. works with seven different admissions offices for each undergrad college. In essence, each recruit at Cornell is an island onto himself and must get admitted on his own merits without assistance from other members of the class.

Anonymous said...

CBB, Anonymous 10:02 AM here again. Thanks for your explanation.

If I understand your response, Harvard does impose upon itself a voluntary extra limitation not stipulated by League rules. Each class must meet some internally set floor for average AI. Is that each class PER sport or for the entire pool of 32 non-football Ivy sports?

Setting a threshold for each class PER sport sounds extremely limiting, especially for sports with small rosters such as basketball or golf or tennis. One recruiting class in these sports could be two or three athletes in total. Requiring a minimum average seems like a pretty steep hurdle.

Setting a floor for the mean AI across all 32 sports would of course be much easier to implement, especially because a few of the country club sports will always contribute high AI applicants. Can you confirm your meaning?

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

The League has a minimum floor (based on an SAT and GPA formula known as the Academic Index) and a vague requirement that the recruits should reflect each school's student body.

Harvard interprets the latter requirement to mean that the TEAM should reflect the student body, not each individual player. THUS, Harvard will take floor kids, so long as the TEAM as whole is reflective.

This allows Harvard to get studs in each recruiting class that are floor kids and to counterbalance them with boosters in the same class that are never expected to play or last more than a year.

This is not an obstacle for Harvard.

It is a short cut.

Harvard hasn't violated any rules, but one could argue it is violating the league's mission, the spirit of the league (if not the school's own mission to claim it is the most selective school in the world).

The League Office has challenged Harvard's practice by raising the A.I. last June. In other words, in reacting to Harvard, the League has raised the floor to make it more difficult for Harvard.

In my opinion, the League is not reacting to this in the right way. But it is what it is...

Anonymous said...

And it's working for Harvard in terms of wins, national recognition, and quality of recruits as evident by this year's freshman and next year's entering class (if they get Zena). Is it in the spirit of the Ivy League mission. No.

I've heard rumors that Harvard's basketball AI is still higher than many other Ivies. Is that true?

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

It is working for Harvard. Big time.

The AI at Harvard for other sports is the highest in the league.

For basketball, it is a fact that the men's basketball team has the lowest AI in the league in the last 2-3 seasons.

They have so many floor kids on their roster that several Ivies couldn't recruit some of their kids.

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

We have updated Mischler's profile with quotes from his coach. See above.

Anonymous said...

I know this will be an unpopular statement, but maybe it's time Cornell changes its AI practice as well. Basketball is probably the only sport in the Ivy League that really increases a school's visibility on a national level. There isn't a bowl series for football, and the other sports in which Cornell excels aren't TV sports. Elite academic schools like Duke, Stanford, and now Harvard (recognizing this isn't a perfect comparison) have been able to keep high level academics while becoming national powerhouses in basketball, which has arguably increased their school's standing with young students. The downside is maybe a loss of integrity, although it depends on how your frame that term. I'm not saying it should happen, but maybe it's time to look in the mirror and think long and hard about it.

Anonymous said...

CBB, Anonymous 10:02 AM here once more. Thanks again for keeping up your end of the conversation.

You criticize Harvard for taking high AI boosters to meet their self-imposed requirement of a TEAM class average meeting an internally set minimum.

But if Harvard is taking a shortcut, to use your words, to circumvent a policy which Cornell doesn't need to satisfy anyway, what's the harm to us?

Yeah, some really smart athletes might get admitted to Harvard who have no chance to ever see the court. They're the losers in this system except they still earn Ivy degrees.

As you point out, Harvard men's basketball is now playing almost exclusively with low AI recruits who just barely get over the League minimum.

To me, this violates the spirit of the Ivy agreement. But accepting a bunch of high AI guys who can't play basketball doesn't compound the offense.

More broadly, the real losers in the system are the Harvard lacrosse and hockey teams, who see so many of their low AI slots re-allocated to basketball.

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

I am not really criticizing. I am pointing out what is taking place.

And Cornell and Penn are among those Ivies that will take steps to counter Harvard.

Anonymous said...

CBB: when you say taking steps, I assume that essentially means following Harvard's AI practice?

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

Cornell admissions is a completely different animal from Harvard.

Cornell has 7, not 1, admissions offices for undergrads.

That said, Cornell and other Ivies will do what it takes to ensure that they can admit kids to be competitive.

Cornell has more national championship caliber teams than any other Ivy in the bigger sports. Cornell has tasted the Sweet 16 and wants to get back to that level of success. The school will do what it takes to get there, just like it did back in 2000 when it decided it was going to take the power away from Penn and Princeton.

Anonymous said...

To my understanding, Ivy football has its own AI band. All other sports are lumped into a second mutual AI band. This concept was agreed to many years ago by the Ivy Presidents. Scalise and Amaker were simply the first to tilt it so strongly toward favoring the highest visibility non-football sport, men's basketball, at the expense of the other minor sports.

Creating an AI band for basketball alone, as now exists for football, would solve the "problem" that has been discussed above.

Doing so is on the minds of seven Ivy Presidents. Not doing so is on the mind of the eighth.

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

Not entirely. You could still use boosters in that model.

I think it is ridiculous that Harvard has lost exactly 16 kids (many of which were academic boosters) since 2008.

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

Here is the list of Harvard roster losses for reasons other than graduation/medical since 2008-2009.

This is the "academic booster" problem fully illustrated:

Jamie Moore (left during '11-'12)
Ernest Rouse (left during '11-'12)
Max Kenyi (left during '11-'12)
Pete Edelson (left during '10-'11)
Spencer de Mars (left during '10-'11)
Hugh Martin (left during '09-'10)
Peter Boehm (left during '09-'10)
Peter Swiatek (left during '09-'10)
Eric Groszyk (left during '08-'09)
T.J. Carey (left during '08-'09)
Kyle Fitzgerald (left during '08-'09)
Adam Demuyakor (left during '08-'09)
Ndu Okereke (left during '08-'09)
Darryl Finkton (left during '08-'09)
Cem Dinc (left during '08-'09)
Alex Blankenau (left during '08-'09)

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 1:51 PM is correct. Moving men's basketball to a banded system as is used in football would solve Harvard's cheating.

Boosters with high AI credentials would not increase the number of low AI slots available.

Right now, Harvard is giving Amaker access to as many low AI admissions slots as he wants. A football-style system would explicitly cap the number of low AI slots per team.

You need 6 votes to get any major change approved in the Ivies. It's a pretty good bet that Yale and Princeton would vote in *favor* of a banding system because they're already working under tighter academic restrictions voluntarily, as Harvard did pre-Amaker.

Anonymous said...

CBB: maybe I'm reading too much between the lines about Cornell "taking steps" to counter Harvard, but the Mischler offer makes more sense if there's readjusting of AI. Not that we don't need a nice shooter like him, of course.

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

Mischler had nothing to do with the new A.I.

Back in September, the Cornell recruiting class was believed to be pretty much closed.

But things changed.

Cornell needed a shooter. This became apparent this season when Cornell struggled shooting (and is losing Ferry, Wroblewski and Groebe).

It was late in the recruiting process in December and Mischler was still available while many top prospects were off the board and committed elsewhere.

He had the academic profile to fly through admissions (he was already admitted to Army and Navy).

He had the financial aid profile as well.

The staff thought he could help.


They took him. Not much more to it than all of the above.

He has a bit of Drew Ferry in him and could be a real nice player for Cornell.

Anonymous said...

While the last post (7:58 a.m. this morning by CBB) is actually how it happened, it just doesn't seem as entertaining as some of the other posts!!

Anonymous said...

Does above person not understand the definition of a team? Every player on a team has a role - if it's a good team any ways. That's the best quality of Mischler. He is coachable and listens and wants the best for his team and teammates, the definition of a Leader. You are lucky to have him. He doesn't need to be the focus of the attention.

Jack said...

I'm obviously late to this party, but wonder about some things. First of all I like the signing of this kid from Indiana. You damn well know an Indiana kid will work his ass off to be the best player he can be. And shooters are never overrated. A great shooter can shoot on any court against any competition.

however, the lauding of his academics is a little puzzling. 1770 SAT? That's like 1200 math + verbal. That's 200 points below the Cornell average. I'm not stupid and I know high profile sports need to make some academic concessions, but the attitude seems to be that Mischler is somehow raising the academic profile of the team. If so, that's an indictment of the other players we recruit. How low are we going?

Your discussion of the AI was interesting. Cornell is a member of the Ivy League and must follow Ivy restrictions, which include a minimum AI and a rule that the average AI for athletes must be no more than a standard deviation lower than that for the school as a whole. This rule does allow a school like Harvard to put their dumb eggs all in one basket, pardon the pun. But this is the first time I've ever heard that Cornell has different restrictions than other Ivy schools. Is there anywhere I can find out more about this?

Personally, though I loved our Sweet 16 run in 2010, in the long run, having excellent hockey and lax teams might be a bit easier than fighting Penn, Princeton and Harvard in an arms race for previously inadmissible basketball players. I loved that that Cornell team in 2010 looked and seemed like Cornell students. On the other hand, Harvard's teams in no way resemble Harvard students in general, and we all know it.

Anonymous said...

His score was 1900 total, not 1770

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

Robert is a great student. He was admitted to Navy and West Point.

Jack said...

If his SAT was 1900, even better - any link for that? If it was 1770, that's fine too. he is obviously a good and ambitious student and I have no problem with it either way. I'm kind of interested in what the real low bar is for the best Ivy athletes, and hope it's not much lower than an SAT in the 1700's. But maybe I need to ask Tommy Amaker about that.

Army and Navy don't have the pure academic standards that Cornell does, though they have high ones. But getting in there does show Mischler as a high-character kid, and the academics are at least decent. I have a feeling we will be pleasantly surprised with him after 4 years.