Monday, February 13, 2012

News and Notes: Monday Edition

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Below, some news and notes for Monday...
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  • Steve Donahue told the New York Times that he was among the coaches that passed on signing Jeremy Lin out of high school. "We all felt the same way: we could get better [players]." While Cornell did not add Lin to its class of 2010, the Big Red did win three consecutive outright Ivy League titles between 2008 through 2010, including an undefeated Ivy campaign in 2008, and reached a final #17 national ranking and Sweet 16 appearance in 2010. Could Cornell have been even better with Jeremy Lin?
  • NBA D-League All Star Jeff Foote (Cornell '10) and his Springfield Armor are back in action Thursday against Iowa. All D-League games are broadcast online via Futurecast on the league website. Foote scored 23 points, grabbed 9 rebounds and blocked 2 shots in a 118-87 win over the Ft. Wayne Mad Ants on Sunday. In the win, Springfield set a franchise record with its fifth consecutive victoru. See the Springfield Republican for the recap. The Republican writes, "The fast-rising Springfield Armor slammed home another message Sunday night. Led by Jeff Foote’s 23 points and 9 rebounds, the Armor won a franchise-record fifth consecutive game, totally ripping apart the Fort Wayne Mad Ants 118-87 in front of a silenced 3,706 at Allen County War Memorial Coliseum. Six Armor players reached double figures for the second consecutive game...It took Foote just 10 minutes to get there... Foote, a 7-foot center from Cornell who began the season in the Portland Trail Blazers’ NBA camp, was particularly strong for the Armor early on, scoring their first three baskets. The Mad Ants had no answer for his moves, forcing Mad Ants coach Steve Gansey to eventually send in backup center Sean Sonderleiter to muscle him around a bit. In the opening quarter alone, Foote scored on a dunk, a reverse layup and a hook shot." The D-League All Star game is February 25 at 2 pm and will be broadcast on NBA TV.
  • The Pittsburgh Post Tribune notes that there are few traditional post players in the local high school area and writes, "players like Plum's 6-4 Nolan Cressler, Kittanning's 6-4 Sterling Henry and 6-5 Mike Connelly at St. Joseph are handling the ball and distributing, rather than patrolling the paint."

  • Game Recaps-Below are links to our game recap sections from each of Cornell's games this season.
  1. November 11, 2011 at St. Bonaventure L 58-79
  2. November 14, 2011 vs. Binghamton W 76-61
  3. November 16, 2011 at Buffalo L 59-68
  4. November 20, 2011 vs. Boston University W 71-66
  5. November 22, 2011 at Delaware L 68-76
  6. November 27, 2011 vs. American L 63-65
  7. December 3, 2011 vs. Lehigh W 81-79 (OT)
  8. December 17, 2011 vs. Albany W 85-82 (OT)
  9. December 19, 2011 at Illinois L 60-64
  10. December 21, 2011 at Penn State L 67-74
  11. December 28, 2011 at Stony Brook L 58-69 (OT)
  12. December 31, 2011 at Bucknell L 60-63
  13. January 3, 2012 at Maryland L 62-70
  14. January 7, 2012 vs. Albright W 78-60
  15. January 13, 2012 vs. Princeton W 67-59
  16. January 14, 2012 vs. Penn L 52-64
  17. January 21, 2012 at Columbia L 56-61
  18. January 28, 2012 vs. Columbia W 65-60
  19. February 3, 2012 at Harvard L 60-71
  20. February 4, 2012 at Dartmouth W 68-59
  21. February 10, 2012 vs. Yale W 85-84 OT
  22. February 11, 2012 vs. Brown W 72-63
  • Cornell RPI Watch: The RPI (Rating Percentage Index) is a measure of strength of schedule and how a team does against that schedule. It does not consider the margin of victory, but only whether or not a team won and where the game was played (home/away/neutral court). The formula is 25% team winning percentage (WP), 50% opponents' average winning percentage (OWP), and 25% opponents' opponents' average winning percentage (OOWP). (See: CollegeRPI.com for a further explanation of the formula.) The RPI may be the most influential factor in NCAA Tournament seeding. Cornell's RPI rank as of February 13 is No. 171 out of 344 total Division I teams. While neither the Ken Pomeroy or Jeff Sagarin rankings are used by the NCAA Tournament Selection Committee, the KenPom.com site ranks Cornell No. 181 in the nation, while the USA Today Sagarin rankings have Cornell at No. 190. Both sites are predominantly used by fans and the media.
IVY LEAGUE COMPOSITE SCHEDULE

Friday, November 11
Johnson & Wales 66 Brown 86 (Box Score - Recap)
Columbia 57 Connecticut 70[ESPNU] (Box Score - Recap)
Cornell 58 St. Bonaventure 79 (Box Score - Recap)
MIT 49 Harvard 76 (Box Score - Recap)
Dartmouth 56 Rutgers 62 (Box Score - Recap)
Penn 59 Maryland-Baltimore County 45 (Box Score - Recap)
Yale 73 Central Connecticut State 69 (Box Score - Recap)

Saturday, November 12
Wagner 73 Princeton 57 (Box Score - Recap)

Monday, November 14
Albany 77 Brown 68 (NIT Tip-Off-1st Round@Syracuse, N.Y.)[ESPN3] (Box Score - Recap)
Temple 73 Penn 67 OT (Box Score - Recap)
Furman 58 Columbia 62 (Box Score - Recap)
Binghamton 61 Cornell 76 (Box Score - Recap)

Tuesday, November 15
Harvard 73 Holy Cross 64 (Box Score - Recap)
Yale 62 Quinnipiac 68 [SNY] (Box Score - Recap)
Brown 52 Manhattan 54 NIT Tip Consolation@Syracuse, N.Y. [ESPN3] (Box Score - Recap)

Wednesday, November 16
Cornell 59 Buffalo 68 (Box Score - Recap)
Vermont 65 Dartmouth 53 (Box Score - Recap)
Princeton 58 North Carolina State 60 [ESPNU] (Box Score - Recap)

Thursday, November 17
Penn 78 Rider 72 OT (Box Score - Recap)
Lyndon State 37 Yale 101 (Box Score - Recap)

Saturday, November 19
Buffalo 53 Princeton 61 (Box Score - Recap)
Hartford 52 Brown 59 (Box Score - Recap)
American 66 Columbia 58 (Box Score - Recap)
Bryant 62 Dartmouth 66 (Box Score - Recap)
Robert Morris 60 Penn 66 (Box Score - Recap)
Harvard 77 Loyola Marymount 67 (Box Score - Recap)

Sunday, November 20
Boston University 66 Cornell 71 (Box Score - Recap)

Sunday, November 20
Boston University 66 Cornell 71 (Box Score - Recap)

Monday, November 21
Brown 48 George Mason 74 (NIT Consolation Fairfax, VA) (Box Score - Recap)

Tuesday, November 22
Brown 79 Monmouth 71 (NIT Consolation Fairfax, VA) (Box Score - Recap)
Columbia 53 Stony Brook 67 (Box Score - Recap)
Cornell 64 Delaware 72 (Box Score - Recap)
Wagner 71 Penn 65 (Box Score - Recap)
Elon 56 Princeton 55 (Box Score - Recap)
Yale 62 Seton Hall 73 (Box Score - Recap)

Thursday, November 24
Dartmouth 69 San Francisco 71 (Great Alaska Shootout) (Box Score - Recap)
Harvard 75 Utah 47 [HDNet] (Battle 4 Atlantis Bahamas) (Box Score - Recap)

Friday, November 25
Dartmouth 64 vs. Alaska-Anchorage 52(Great Alaska Shootout) (Box Score - Recap)
Harvard 46 Florida State 41 [VERSUS] (Battle 4 Atlantis Bahamas) (Box Score - Recap)
Princeton 56 Bucknell 62 (Legends Classic, Lewisberg, PA) (Box Score - Recap)
Pittsburgh 78 Penn 58 [TCN] (Box Score - Recap)

Saturday, November 26
Yale 84 Army 75 (Box Score - Recap)
Columbia 59 Manhattan 41 (Box Score - Recap)
Princeton 56 Morehead State 68 (Legends Classic, Lewisberg, PA) (Box Score - Recap)
James Madison 60 Penn 58 [TCN] (Philly Hoop Group Classic) (Box Score - Recap)
Dartmouth 48 Western Michigan 65 (Great Alaska Shootout) (Box Score - Recap)
Harvard 59 Central Florida 49 [VERSUS] (Battle 4 Atlantis Bahamas) (Box Score - Recap)

Sunday, November 27
Brown 64 Sacred Heart 77 (Box Score - Recap)
Princeton 66 West Alabama 66 (Legends Classic, Lewisberg, PA) (Box Score - Recap)
American 65 Cornell 63 (Box Score - Recap)

Monday, November 28
Swarthmore 42 Columbia 104 (Box Score - Recap)

Tuesday, November 29
Manhattan 72 Penn 75 (Box Score - Recap)
Yale 74 Hartford 69 (Box Score - Recap)

Wednesday, November 30
Dartmouth 50 New Hampshire 53 (Box Score - Recap)
Lafayette 69 Princeton 54 (Box Score - Recap)
Rhode Island 56 Brown 65 [myRITV] (Box Score - Recap)

Thursday, December 1
Harvard 55 Vermont 48 (Box Score - Recap)

Friday, December 2
Columbia 69 Loyola Marymount 61 (LA Westside Centennial Classic) (Box Score - Recap)

Saturday, December 3
Vermont 52 Yale 68 (Box Score - Recap)
Brown 54 Iowa 75 (Box Score - Recap)
Lehigh 79 Cornell 81 (OT) (Box Score - Recap)
Penn 65 Villanova 73 [ESPN3] (Box Score - Recap)
Columbia 72 North Texas 57 (Box Score - Recap) (LA Westside Centennial Classic)

Sunday, December 4
Columbia 78 La Sierra 56 (Box Score - Recap) (LA Westside Centennial Classic)
Seattle 70 Harvard 80 (Box Score - Recap)

Monday, December 5
Brown 49 Providence 80 [ESPN3/SNY] (Box Score - Recap)
Yale 73 Sacred Heart 71 (Box Score - Recap)

Tuesday, December 6
Holy Cross 45 Columbia 46 (Box Score - Recap)

Wednesday, December 7
Delaware 60 Penn 69 (Box Score - Recap)
New Hampshire 69 Brown 56 (Box Score - Recap)
Princeton 59 Rutgers 57 (Box Score - Recap)
Bryant 59 Yale 76 (Box Score - Recap)

Thursday, December 8
Harvard 53 Connecticut 67 [ESPN2] (Box Score - Recap)

Saturday, December 10
Central Connecticut State 80 Brown 90 (Box Score - Recap)
Long Island 53 Columbia 63 (Box Score - Recap)
Harvard 76 Boston University 52 (Box Score - Recap)
Princeton 60 Drexel 64 (Box Score - Recap)
Penn 73 UCLA 77 [DirecTV] (Box Score - Recap)
Dartmouth 47 Notre Dame 65 [ESPN3] (Box Score - Recap)

Tuesday, December 13
Dartmouth 51 IPFW 56 (Box Score - Recap)

Wednesday, December 14
Princeton 72 Rider 71 OT (Box Score - Recap)

Saturday, December 17
Elon 54 Dartmouth 62 (Box Score - Recap)
Albany 82 Cornell 85 OT (Box Score - Recap)

Sunday, December 18
Princeton 71 Northeastern 62 (Box Score - Recap)
Yale 68 Rhode Island 65 [COX RI] (Box Score - Recap)

Monday, December 19
Cornell 60 Illinois 64 [ESPN3] (Box Score - Recap)
Dartmouth 55 Colgate 61 OT (Box Score - Recap)

Wednesday, December 21
Dartmouth 64 Army 67 (Box Score - Recap)
Cornell 67 Penn State 74 [Big Ten Network] (Box Score - Recap)

Thursday, December 22
Florida Atlantic 51 Harvard 63 (Box Score - Recap)
Princeton 59 Siena 63 (Box Score - Recap)

Friday, December 23
Maine 71 Brown 58 (Box Score - Recap)
Dartmouth 74 Albany 82 (Box Score - Recap)
Marist 71 Penn 84 (Box Score - Recap)

Wednesday, December 28
Columbia 59 Marist 79 (Box Score - Recap)
Cornell 59 Stony Brook 68 OT [Cablevision] (Box Score - Recap)

Thursday, December 29
Brown 49 St. Francis (N.Y.) 66 (Box Score - Recap)
Harvard 67 Boston College 46 [ESPN3] (Box Score - Recap)
Penn 70 Davidson 75 (Box Score - Recap)
Yale 71 Wake Forest 72 (Box Score - Recap)

Friday, December 30
Princeton 75 Florida State 73 (3OT) [ESPN3] (Box Score - Recap)
Lafayette 67 Columbia 77 (Box Score - Recap)

Saturday, December 31
Cornell 60 Bucknell 63 (Box Score - Recap)
Holy Cross 65 Dartmouth 61 (Box Score - Recap)
Yale 70 Florida 90 [ESPNU] (Box Score - Recap)
Saint Joseph’s 69 Harvard 74 (Box Score - Recap)

Sunday, January 1
Princeton 76 Florida A&M 61 (Box Score - Recap)
Penn 55 Duke 85 [ESPNU] (Box Score - Recap)

Monday, January 2
American 70 Brown 61 (Box Score - Recap)
Fairleigh Dickinson 52 Columbia 67 (Box Score - Recap)

Tuesday, January 3
Bucknell 67 Dartmouth 59 (Box Score - Recap)
Harvard 54 Fordham 60 (Box Score - Recap)
Holy Cross 67 Yale 82 (Box Score - Recap)
Cornell 62 Maryland 70 [ESPN3] (Box Score - Recap)

Wednesday, January 4
Columbia 66 Colgate 59 (Box Score - Recap)
Penn 78 Lafayette 73 (Box Score - Recap)

Saturday, January 7
*Dartmouth 47 Harvard 63 (Box Score - Recap)
Albright 60 Cornell 78 (Box Score - Recap)

Sunday, January 8
Columbia 65 Elon 60 (Box Score - Recap)
The College of New Jersey 68 Princeton 79 (Box Score - Recap)
St. Joseph’s (N.Y.) 86 Yale 101 (Box Score)

Tuesday, January 10
Harvard 70 Monmouth 61 (Box Score - Recap)
La Salle 68 Penn 57 (Box Score - Recap)

Wednesday, January 11
Longwood 79 Brown 77 (Box Score - Recap)

Friday, January 13
*Penn 66 Columbia 64 (Box Score - Recap)
*Princeton 59 Cornell 67 (Box Score - Recap)

Saturday, January 14
*Brown 64 Yale 68 (Box Score - Recap)
Longwood 67 Dartmouth 83 (Box Score - Recap)
George Washington 48 Harvard 69 (Box Score - Recap)
*Princeton 62 Columbia 58 (Box Score - Recap)
*Penn 52 Cornell 64 (Box Score - Recap)

Saturday, January 21
*Yale 73 Brown 60 (Box Score - Recap)
*Cornell 56 Columbia 61 (Box Score - Recap)
*Harvard 54 Dartmouth 38 (Box Score - Recap)
Saint Joseph’s 80 Penn 84 (Box Score - Recap)

Monday, January 23
Brown 67 Bryant 60 (
Box Score - Recap)

Friday, January 27

*Dartmouth 59 Brown 66 (
Box Score - Recap)
*Harvard 65 Yale 35 (
Box Score - Recap)

Saturday, January 28

*Harvard 68 Brown 59 (
Box Score - Recap)
*Columbia 60
Cornell 65 (Box Score - Recap)
*Dartmouth 52 Yale 62 (
Box Score - Recap)

Monday, January 30
*Princeton 67 Penn 82 (Box Score - Recap)

Friday, February 3
*Princeton 77 Brown 63 (Box Score - Recap)
*Columbia 64 Dartmouth 62 (Box Score - Recap)
*Cornell 60 Harvard 71 (Box Score - Recap)
*Penn 53 Yale 60 (Box Score - Recap)

Saturday, February 4
*Penn 65 Brown 48 (Box Score - Recap)
*Columbia 52 Harvard 57 (Box Score - Recap)
*Cornell 68 Dartmouth 59 (Box Score - Recap)
*Princeton 54 Yale 58 (Box Score - Recap)

Friday, February 10
*Brown 60 Columbia 86 (Box Score - Recap)
*Yale 84 Cornell 85 (OT) Box Score - Recap
*Harvard 56 Penn 50 (Box Score - Recap)
*Dartmouth 47 Princeton 59 (Box Score - Recap)

Saturday, February 11
*Brown 63 Cornell 72 (Box Score - Recap)
*Yale 59 Columbia 58 (Box Score - Recap)
*Dartmouth 55 Penn 58 (Box Score - Recap)
*Harvard 62 Princeton 70 [ESPNU] (Box Score - Recap)

  • Below is an updated directory listing of some Twitter feeds associated with the Cornell basketball program. You can also follow The Cornell Basketball Blog on Twitter.
-Josh Wexler ('88)
-Steve Cobb ('05)
-Ryan Rourke ('06)
-Andrew Naeve ('07)
-Jason Canady ('08)
-Khaliq Gant ('09)
-Conor Mullen ('09)
-Brian Kreefer ('09)
-Ryan Wittman ('10)
-Pete Reynolds ('10)
-Jon Jaques ('10)
-Louis Dale ('10)
-Alex Tyler ('10)
-Geoff Reeves ('10)
-Jeff Foote ('10)
-Andre Wilkins ('10) (inactive)
-Aaron Osgood ('11)
-Adam Wire ('11)
-The Cornell Rebounders Club
-Max Groebe ()
-Chris Wroblewski ()
-Andrew Ferry ()
-Jonathan Grey ()
-Miles Asafo Adjei ()
-Peter McMillan ()
-Errick Peck ()
-Josh Figini ()
-Galal Cancer ()
-Ned Tomic ()
-Dominick Scelfo ()
-Jake Mathews ()
-Dwight Tarwater ()
-Manny Sahota ()
-Dave LaMore ()
-Shonn Miller ()
-Devin Cherry ()
-Nolan Cressler (committed recruit)
-Braxston Bunce (committed recruit)
-Holt Harmon (committed recruit)
-Tim Higgins (committed recruit)
-Robert Mischler (committed recruit)
-Assistant Coach Mike Blaine ()
-Assistant Coach Marlon Sears ()
-Assistant Coach Arlen Galloway ()
-Brian Delaney, WPIE/ESPN Radio Ithaca ()
-Ed Boulat, Ithaca Journal
-Cornell Daily Sun Sports ()
-Slope Sports ()
-WVBR Sports ()
-Former assistant coach, Jay Larranaga ()
-Former head coach, Steve Donahue ()
-Former assistant coach, Nat Graham ()
-Former assistant coach, Woody Kampmann ()
-Former Assistant Coach Ricky Yahn ()
-Former Intern Assistant Ryan Woerner ()

  • Throughout the year we provide periodic updates on Cornell's alumni playing professionally. Below, some updates:
-Jeff Aubry ('99) (Halcones Rojos, LNBP Mexico premier league/Arecibo Capitanes, BSN Puerto Rico premier league)-As of February 13, in Mexico Aubry is averaging 5.5 points and 5.4 rebounds per game. Halcones leads Toros 3-1 in the best of seven series in the league finals after finishing the regular season 34-6 and in 1st place out of 14 teams in the Mexican LNBP. Aubry, a 6'11" center, splits his time in both the Mexican and Puerto Rican professional leagues. He is also a member of Puerto Rico's national team joining several NBA stars. A well traveled pro player, Aubry spent several seasons in the NBA D League in the early part of his career with the Fayetteville Patriots and Florida Flame and earned honorable mention all D-League in 2002. During his more than a decade of pro experience, Aubry has also played professionally in the ABA (Miami Tropics) and abroad in Puerto Rico (Arecibo, Leones de Ponce, and Santurce, BSN Puerto Rico), Spain (Tarragona, LEB Gold Spain 2nd Division), Mexico (Halcones Rojos and Chihuahua Dorados, LNBP Mexico premier league), Poland (Slask Wroclaw, PLK Poland premier league), Argentina (Libertad Sunchales, Liga A Argentina), Uruguay (Hebraica, LUB Uruguay )and Peru (Alas Peruanas, Peru).

-Cody Toppert ('05) (Ourense, LEB Silver Spain 3rd Division)-As of February 13, Toppert is averaging 6.0 points and 1.8 rebounds per game. Ourense is 10-5 (2nd place out of 13 teams in the Spanish LEB Silver). During his pro career, Toppert, a 6'4" wing forward, has also played in England (Plymouth Raiders, British Basketball League), Italy (Forli, LegaDue Italy 2nd division), the CBA (Great Falls Explorers), as well as in Portugal (Barriernese, LCB Portugal premier league), Germany (Goettingen, BBK Bundesliga Germany premier league) and New Zealand (Taranaki Mountain Airs, NBL New Zealand premier league).

-Jason Hartford ('08) (Unsigned free agent)-As of February 13, Hartford is unsigned for the 2011-2012 season. He was cut during the week of October 17 by Cader Rocha, LUB Uruguay premier league and is now a free agent. He was averaging 12.8 points and 6.4 rebounds per game, second on the team in both categories. The 6'9" Hartford previously played professionally in Portugal (Ginasio, LCB Portugal premier league), Finland (Huima, Korisliiga Finland premier league) and Mozambique (Maxaquene, D1 Mozambique premier league).

-Louis Dale ('10) (Goettingen, BBK Bundesliga Germany premier league)-As of February 13, Dale is out for the season with a torn ACL. He was averaging 11.9 points, 2.2 assists, and 2.0 rebounds per game before the injury. Dale is in his second professional season, both seasons in Germany with Goettingen.

-Ryan Wittman ('10) (Unsigned free agent)-As of February 13, Wittman is unsigned for the 2011-2012 season after he terminated his contract on September 26 with Zastal of the PLK Poland premier league. He played the 2010-2011 season in Italy (Forli, LegaDue Italy 2nd division) and in the United States (Fort Wayne Mad Ants, NBA D-League).

-Jeff Foote ('10) (Springfield Armor, NBA D-League)-As of February 13, Foote is averaging 14.9 points, 8.3 rebounds, and 1.1 blocks per game while shooting 56% from the floor in the D-League. He participated in the Portland Trailblazers' 2011-2012 training camp. Springfield is 18-13 (2nd place out of 8 teams in the Eastern Conference). He played the 2011-2012 preseason with with Zastal of the PLK Poland premier league and the full 2010-2011 season in Spain (Melilla, LEB Gold Spain 2nd division) while on loan from Euro League powerhouse Maccabi Tel Aviv of Israel.

-Adam Wire ('11) (Unsigned free agent)-As of February 13, Wire is an unsigned free agent. He was waived by Vaerlose, Denmark BBK premier league during December. He was averaging 11.3 points, 6.9 rebounds, 2.9 steals and 1.9 assists per game. On November 4, 2011 he was named the Eurobasket Player of the Week for Denmark. The 2011-2012 season is his rookie year.

-Aaron Osgood ('11) (Unsigned free agent)-As of February 13, Osgood is an unsigned free agent. He was waived by Vaerlose, Denmark BBK premier league during December. He was averaging 11.6 points and 8.4 rebounds per game. The 2011-2012 season is his rookie year.
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17 comments:

Anonymous said...

Jeremy Lin wouldn't have started on the 2010 Cornell team.

Anonymous said...

1:21 PM Post might want to take off his "BIG RED" glasses and try to be objective about Jeremy Lin. Lin was First Team All-Ivy in 2010. That exceptional 2010 Cornell team would have had room for Lin in their starting rotation. That's a fact. I know Steve Donahue (a great coach) would agree.

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

Silly debate. Cornell won 3 Ivy titles without Lin. Hard to make a case that they "needed" him. And not sure Lin's playing style would have meshed well with his Cornell teammates.

Lin likes to be the focal point of any offense. He wants to be a scoring point guard. That is not the way Cornell played and is a reason why Collin Robinson could not fit in.

So, I beg to differ. I don't think Lin would have thrived at Cornell or emerged as a starter.

Anonymous said...

Agree with CBB on this. Exactly who would have Lin replaced?

Anonymous said...

CBB, I never said Cornell "needed" Lin. I was just responding to the "silly" message from post 1:21 PM. Lin doesn't need to score to be effective. You will see that in the weeks ahead as the Knicks get healthier. Also, he wasn't Harvard's point guard. Curry and McNally handled those duties. Anyway, i guess we can agree to disagree.

Anonymous said...

Lin's 26.1% Usage Rate in 2010 was comparable to Dale's (24.7%) and Wittman's (25.0%). Further, when you take into consideration that he did not have nearly the talent around him that Dale/Witt did, it makes sense that he'd use more of Harvard's possessions. Any guard who shoots .519 from the field (especially with a mediocre jumpshot) is almost certainly on the unselfish side and passing up some scoring opportunities. So trying to equate Lin with Collin Robinson is lunacy. Also, Lin finished second in Ivy APG in 2010, despite not having the finishers that Dale did at Cornell.

With no disrespect meant to Wrobo, Lin would have absolutely started on the 2010 team (FWIW, I can't imagine too many 6th men in Ivy history as talented as Geoff Reeves), and Cornell would have been an even better team with him.

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

Right, Jeremy Lin only had Keith Wright, Oliver McNally, Kyle Casey, Christian Webster and Brandyn Curry. Not much talent at all.

Anonymous said...

I am a big Cornell fan and definitely have a Cornell bias but the CBB and anonymous at 1:21 are even too much for me on this one........Jeremy Lin would have made a great contribution to the 2010 team. Wrobo is great now and was excellent in 2010, but a backcourt of Dale and Lin would definitely have been an upgrade.....who knows, we might have even beaten Kentucky with that backcourt. Granted, there is always the possibility that talented players can't mesh together but I think Jeremy Lin would have been a great addition to that team.

Anonymous said...

CBC, Cornell's 2010 team had 7 seniors (3 ALL-Ivy), and was a 2-time defending league champion. Harvard had 3 talented freshmen (Curry, Webster and Casey), a good sophomore guard (McNally), and an injured Keith Wright. I think there's a difference. Harvard had an improving roster around Jeremy Lin, but nothing to match Cornell's squad.

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

Harvard had a top 50 RPI for most of the 2010 season and there was plenty of buzz about the Crimson as a second Ivy bid. Let's not make Lin out to be the lone star on his last team.

As for adding him to Cornell, All Star teams are not always the best teams. Lin's style of play doesn't seem to mesh well with Cornell's 2010 team.

He'd be great for the 2012 team which emphasizes speed and creating one's own shot.

Anonymous said...

That team of freshmen and sophomores wasn't nearly as good as Cornell's veteran lineup in 2010. Would anybody (especially the biggest Cornell homer in the world) have taken Lin's supporting cast over Lou's?

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

Of course Cornell had a better team. But Lin also had a very good team. Even without him, Harvard was probably an upper division team in 2010.

Anonymous said...

An article in Monday's New York Daily News about what Tommy Amaker has built at Harvard highlights the difficulty of going undefeated in the Ivy League, pointing out that Penn in 2003 was the last team to do it. Uh, no.

By the way, not only would Jeremy Lin not start for our 2010 squad, he wouldn't make the varsity and probably wouldn't graduate on time, either.

Anonymous said...

Have to disagree with Anon: 7:53pm.
I don't see any way he starts in place of wrobo on the two NCAA teams. Not only did he pace the entire Ivy league in 3 pt shooting, Coach D admitted that wrobo was his best "on ball" defender. As evidenced by the fact he guarded guys like jhonny Flynn, Sheron Collins, etc.
As great a guard a Dale was, in critical end game situations, the ball was often in wrobo's hands, as he has a better handle than either Dale or Lin. He was also,
2nd or 3rd, in both assists, steals, and turnover %, something Lin wasn't close to.

Not to mention, that in the two years after foote, witt, & dale graduated, when Harvard played C'nell it was wrobo guarding Lin and he never reached his average.

It might be all conjecture, but I only see Lin coming off the bench, spelling dale, and wrobo.

Anonymous said...

Wow, that's some crazy stuff being written through rose-colored glasses. As a Cornellian, and former basketball player, I'd have to say you are comparing the proverbial apples and oranges. Wrobo and Dale (whom I think was the best player on that team - not Wittman) are both small guards. Neither of them would be running pick and roll in the NBA, bouncing off people, and still scoring. Lin is a VERY good player, and he is PERFECT in D'Antoni's system. That is why he is succeeding at the moment. As a comparison, look what Dale did against Deron Williams in Europe (got scorched) vs. what Lin did against him in NY last week (won the battle by far). Geoff Reeves (the most underrated of that group) had the athleticism and size to guard Lin (who is 6'3" and 200). The other guys are too small and probably too slow. When you're listed at 6' and are actually 5'10" at best, you better be a blur.

Anonymous said...

Couldn't agree with anon 11:09 more. Seriously folks, get off the drugs. We all loved the 2010 team, but an NBA player of the week couldn't start on a team where only one of those players is currently playing pro?

Anonymous said...

Wait... wait...ANON 10:31AM Do I read this right?

"...in the two years after Foote, Witt, & Dale graduated, when Harvard played Cornell, it was Wrobo guarding Lin and..."

When our short-term memories are getting this bad, it's time to stop.

Jeremy Lin graduated the same year as Foote, Witt, and Lou. Wrobo did not guard Lin in the two years after the Big Three graduated, because Lin was not playing for Harvard during those two years.

Pardon me if I read this wrong.