Monday, March 18, 2013

News and Notes: Monday Edition

Below, news and notes for Monday...

  • SCTimes.com writes, "The six Ivies outside of Penn and Princeton combined for three NCAA appearances between 1963 and 2007. They (or, more specifically, Cornell and Harvard) have managed five NCAA bids in the last six years."
  • BuzzFeed.com lists Cornell among the best 64 Cinderella teams in NCAA Tournament history and writes:
12. 2010 Cornell Big Red
12 seed upsets are notorious in the NCAA tournament. In fact, since the tournament expanded to 64 teams in 1985, a 12 seed has made it to the second round in all but three years of the tournament, and a 12 seed has advanced to the Sweet 16, and 12 seeds have advanced to the Sweet 16 19 times, which means that 12 seeds have better records than 11 seeds. What makes Cornell's run notable is that they did it in dominating fashion, controlling both Temple and Wisconsin, winning by 13 and 18 points respectively before falling to top seeded Kentucky.
  • CatsPause.com remembers Kentucky's 75 most memorable NCAA moments and writes, "DANDY DOZEN: No. 12 seed Cornell awaited Kentucky in the Sweet 16 round at the East Regional in Syracuse, N.Y. The Ivy League champion had taken out No. 5 Temple and No. 4 Wisconsin to win a shot at the Cats. But the Cinderella story came to a close 62-45 behind 16 points from DeMarcus Cousins and 12 rebounds from Patrick Patterson."
  • The Pittsburgh Tribune discusses its area high school all star game, The Cager Classic and writes, "Last year's boys game saw records fall for most points by a team and player. The West put up 118, and Plum's Nolan Cressler, now a starting guard at Cornell, scored 38 points."
  • Bleacher Reports lists Louis Dale (Cornell '10) among the "Most Obscure March Madness Hereos Ever" and writes:
Whenever an Ivy League team reaches the Sweet 16, it is worth noting.
Cornell surprised many in 2010 by winning two games as the No. 12 seed before falling to the much more athletic Kentucky in the regional semifinal.
During this run, Louis Dale led the team in scoring in each game and averaged 21.3 per game during the stretch.
Ryan Wittman was also impressive with his shooting from the outside.
Of course, head coach Steve Donahue used this to get a job at Boston College, and the Big Red returned to obscurity.
  • Jeff Foote (Cornell '10) finished with 4 points on Friday night as his Zalgiris (Lithuania) club fell 70-61 to CSKA Moscow in the Top 16 of the EuroLeague.  See some video highlights and photos from the game, which include some images of Foote in action.  See additional Cornell alumni news further below in this post.
  • The Duke Chronicle believes the Blue Devils are ready for the NCAA Tournament's tightly compacted games and writes, "even against lower-quality opponents, the Blue Devils learned to play without rest. Duke beat Elon 76-54 Dec. 20 after beating Cornell by 41 points Dec. 19 the day before."
  • Below, links to our recap sections from each of Cornell's games during the 2012-2013 season. 
  • Cornell RPI WatchThe RPI (Rating Percentage Index) is a measure of strength of schedule and how a team does against that schedule. It does not consider the margin of victory, but only whether or not a team won and where the game was played (home/away/neutral court). The formula is 25% team winning percentage (WP), 50% opponents' average winning percentage (OWP), and 25% opponents' opponents' average winning percentage (OOWP). (See: CollegeRPI.com for a further explanation of the formula.) The RPI may be the most influential factor in NCAA Tournament seeding. Cornell's RPI rank as of March 18 is No. 248 out of 344 total Division I teams. While neither the Ken Pomeroy or the Sagarin Rankings (USA Today) are used by the NCAA Tournament Selection Committee, the KenPom.com site ranks Cornell No. 265 in the nation, while the Sagarin Rankings (USA Today) have Cornell at No. 261  Both sites are predominantly used by fans and the media.
IVY LEAGUE COMPOSITE SCHEDULE

Friday, November 9
MIT 54 Harvard 69 Box Score - Recap
UMBC 75 Penn 80  Box Score - Recap

Saturday, November 10
Western Michigan 55 Cornell 63 Box Score - Recap
Princeton 57 Buffalo 53 Box Score - Recap
Yale 82 Sacred Heart 85 (OT) [SNY] [Conn 6] Box Score - Recap  
Columbia 68 Furman 47 Box Score - Recap
Maine 54 Dartmouth 67  Box Score - Recap

Sunday, November 11
Brown 58 Binghamton 49 Box Score - Recap

Monday, November 12
Yale 35 Saint Joseph’s 61 (Coaches v. Cancer) 
Box Score - Recap
Penn 69 Delaware 84 (Preseason NIT)
 Box Score - Recap

Tuesday, November 13
Harvard 64 Massachusetts 67 (ESPN Tip Off Marathon) [ESPN]
 Box Score - Recap
Penn 53 Fairfield 62 
(Preseason NIT) [ESPN3] Box Score - Recap
Northeastern 67 Princeton 66 Box Score - Recap
New Hampshire 72 Dartmouth 58 
Box Score - Recap
Haverford 40 Columbia 74
 Box Score - Recap

Wednesday, November 14
St. Bonaventure at Cornell [NBCSN]
 Box Score - Recap

Thursday, November 15
Brown 71 Central Connecticut State 86 
Box Score - Recap

Friday, November 16
Saint Peter’s 68 Cornell 64
 Box Score - Recap
Rutgers 58 Princeton 5
Box Score - Recap
Manhattan 45 Harvard 79 Box Score
Yale 56 Evansville 66 
(Coaches v. Cancer) Box Score - Recap

Saturday, November 17
Drexel
 61 Penn 59 Box Score - Recap
Yale 63 Buffalo 59 (Evansville, Ind.) (Coaches v. Cancer) Box Score
Brown 70 Maine 68 Box Score - Recap
Marist 67 Columbia 62 Box Score - Recap

Sunday. November 18
Yale 47 Western Illinois 59 (Oakland City, Ind.) 
Box Score - Recap
Cornell 40 Wisconsin 73 (Las Vegas Invitational) [ESPN3]  
Box Score - Recap

Monday, November 19
Penn 68 Fordham 70 (Preseason NIT, Bethlehem PA) Box Score - Recap

Tuesday, November 20
Columbia 75 Villanova 57 [ESPN3] Box Score - Recap
Harvard 56 Saint Joseph’s 75 [NBCSN] Box Score - Recap
Penn 66 Lehigh 73 (Preseason NIT) Box Score - Recap
Cornell 53 Arizona State 64 (Las Vegas Invitational) [PAC-12 Sports Network] Box Score - Recap

Wednesday, November 21
Bryant 68 Brown 61 Box Score - Recap
Princeton 53 Syracuse 73 [TIME WARNER] Box Score - Recap
Yale 52 Vermont 65  Box Score - Recap

Friday, November 23
Cornell 89 Presbyterian 55 (Las Vegas Invitational at Las Vegas) Box Score - Recap
Columbia 75 Wayland Baptist 63 (SF Hilltop Classic) Box Score - Recap

Saturday, November 24
Saint Francis (N.Y.) 76 Brown72 (OT) Box Score - Recap
IPFW 70 Dartmouth 66 Box Score - Recap
Princeton 72 Lafayette53 Box Score - Recap
Army 83 Yale 86 (2OT)  Box Score - Recap
Cornell 84 Longwood 78 (Las Vegas Invitational at Las Vegas) Box Score - Recap
Columbia 59 San Francisco 79 (SF Hilltop Classic) Box Score - Recap

Tuesday, November 27
Dartmouth 49 Bucknell 62 Box Score - Recap
Vermont 85 Harvard 78 [NBCSN] Box Score - Recap

Wednesday, November 28
Columbia 61 LIU Brooklyn 70 Box Score - Recap
Stony Brook 53 Cornell 76 Box Score - Recap
Binghamton 54 Penn 65 Box Score - Recap
Princeton 42 Wagner 48 (OT) Box Score - Recap

Thursday, November 29
Sacred Heart 56 Brown 69 Box Score - Recap
Hartford 60 Yale 51 Box Score - Recap

Saturday, December 1
Brown 50 New Hampshire 63 [WBIN/FCS] Box Score - Recap
Fordham 64 Harvard 73 Box Score - Recap
Dartmouth 61 Longwood 53 Box Score - Recap
Penn 47 Penn State 58 [ESPN3] Box Score - Recap
Colgate 63 Cornell 70 Box Score - Recap
Bucknell 65 Columbia 57 Box Score - Recap
Princeton 50 Kent State 62 Box Score - Recap

Tuesday, December 4
Dartmouth 49 Elon 71 Box Score - Recap
Harvard 79 Boston College 63 [ESPN3] Box Score - Recap

Wednesday, December 5
Yale 64 Bryant 62 Box Score - Recap

Friday, December 7
Harvard 49 Connecticut 57 [SNY] Box Score - Recap

Saturday, December 8
Yale 56 New Hampshire 64  Box Score - Recap
Drexel 64 Princeton 57 Box Score - Recap
Dartmouth 56 Holy Cross 67 Box Score - Recap
Brown 57 Notre Dame 84 [ESPN3] Box Score - Recap
Villanova 68 Penn 55 [NBCSN] Box Score - Recap

Sunday, December 9
Columbia 54 American 42 Box Score - Recap

Tuesday, December 11
Boston University 64 Harvard 65 Box Score - Recap

Wednesday, December 12
Dartmouth 50 Vermont 52 Box Score - Recap

Saturday, December 15
Princeton 60 Fordham 63 (Brooklyn Hoops Winter Festival) [YES] Box Score - Recap
Dartmouth 42 Arizona State 61 Box Score - Recap

Monday, December 17
Cornell 55 Vanderbilt 66 [ESPNU] Box Score - Recap

Tuesday, December 18
Albertus Magnus 63 Yale 112 Box Score - Recap

Wednesday, December 19
Cornell 47 Duke 88 [ESPNU] Box Score - Recap

Thursday, December 20
Rider 45 Princeton 62 Box Score - Recap

Friday, December 21
Penn 60 Delaware 83  Box Score - Recap

Saturday, December 22
Cornell 57 Boston University70 Box Score - Recap
Dartmouth 66 Bryant 79  Box Score - Recap
Holy Cross 65 Harvard 72  Box Score - Recap
Elon 70 Columbia 79 Box Score - Recap
Bucknell 67 Princeton 79 Box Score - Recap

Sunday, December 23
Brown 42 Northwestern 63 [BTN.com] Box Score - Recap

Friday, December 28
Providence 68 Brown 69 [NBCSN] Box Score - Recap
Cornell 79 Saint Francis (Pa.) 67  Box Score - Recap
Yale 75 Nevada 85 Box Score - Recap

Saturday, December 29
Manhattan 58 Columbia 69 Box Score - Recap
Penn 63 Wagner 68  Box Score - Recap
Harvard 67 California 62 [PAC-12] Box Score - Recap

Sunday, December 30
Cornell 79 Binghamton 77 [TIME WARNER SPORTS] Box Score - Recap
Yale 62 Saint Mary’s (Calif.) 78 Box Score - Recap
Princeton 58 Akron 62 Box Score - Recap

Monday, December 31
Dartmouth 58 Boston College 79 [ESPN3] Box Score - Recap
Brown 50 Albany 57 Box Score - Recap
Harvard 69 Saint Mary’s (Calif.) 70 [ESPN2] Box Score - Recap

Tuesday, January 1
Yale 70 Iowa State 80 Box Score - Recap

Wednesday, January 2
Colgate 59 Columbia 66 Box Score - Recap
Bucknell 72 Cornell 56 Box Score - Recap
Penn 57 Butler 70 Box Score - Recap

Friday, January 4
Brown 47 Rhode Island 59 [OSN] Box Score - Recap
Yale 61 Holy Cross 54 Box Score - Recap

Saturday, January 5
Princeton 74 Elon 64 Box Score - Recap
Penn 57 La Salle 74 Box Score - Recap
Columbia 64 Army 52 Box Score - Recap
Rice 62 Harvard 92 Box Score - Recap
Colgate 78 Dartmouth 62 Box Score - Recap

Sunday, January 6
Cornell 68 American 60 Box Score - Recap
Florida 79 Yale 58 [NBCSN] Box Score - Recap

Tuesday, January 8
Niagara 74 Brown 75 Box Score - Recap
Columbia 69 Holy Cross 78 Box Score - Recap
Army 58 Dartmouth 75 Box Score - Recap
Lafayette 85 Penn 83 Box Score - Recap

Saturday, January 12
Daniel Webster 34 Brown 71 Box Score - Recap
College at Old Westbury 84 Cornell 103  Box Score - Recap
Oberlin 39 Yale 104 Box Score - Recap
*Harvard 75 Dartmouth 65 Box Score - Recap
*Penn 53 Princeton 65 [NBCSN] Box Score - Recap

Thursday, January 17
Colby-Sawyer 42 Dartmouth 80 Box Score
Penn 54 NJIT 53 Box Score - Recap

Saturday, January 19
Harvard 50 Memphis 60 [FSN] Box Score - Recap
*Columbia 58 Cornell 67 NBCSN] Box Score - Recap
Saint Joseph’s 79 Penn 59 [ESPNU] Box Score - Recap
*Yale 51 Brown 65 Box Score - Recap

Wednesday, January 23
Penn 69 Temple 76 Box Score - Recap

Saturday, January 26
*Dartmouth 77  Harvard 82 OT [NBCSN] Box Score - Recap
*Brown 64 Yale 76 OT Box Score - Recap
*Cornell 66 Columbia 63 Box Score - Recap

Sunday, January 27
The College of New Jersey 33 Princeton 71 Box Score - Recap

Friday, February 1
*Brown 62 Dartmouth 50 Box Score - Recap
*Columbia 58 Penn 62  Box Score - Recap
*Cornell 59 Princeton 76 Box Score - Recap
*Yale 64 Harvard 67 Box Score - Recap

 Saturday, February 2
*Columbia 66 Princeton 72 [NBCSN] Box Score - Recap
*Brown 82 Harvard 89 2OT Box Score - Recap
*Cornell 71 Penn 69 Box Score - Recap
*Yale 62 Dartmouth 71 Box Score - Recap

Friday, February 8
*Brown 46 Princeton 63 Box Score - Recap
*Dartmouth 60 Columbia 57 Box Score - Recap
*Harvard 67 Cornell 65  Box Score - Recap
*Yale 68 Penn 59  Box Score - Recap

Saturday, February 9
*Yale 69 Princeton 65 Box Score - Recap
*Brown 48 Penn 71 Box Score - Recap

Sunday, February 10
*Harvard 63 Columbia 78 Box Score - Recap
*Dartmouth 56 Cornell 79 Box Score - Recap

Friday, February 15
*Columbia 55 Brown 58 [myRITV] Box Score - Recap
*Cornell 68 Yale 61 Box Score - Recap
*Princeton 73 Dartmouth 55 Box Score - Recap
*Penn 54 Harvard 73  Box Score - Recap

Saturday, February 16
*Cornell 69 Brown 66 Box Score - Recap
*Columbia 56 Yale 75 Box Score - Recap
*Penn 67 Dartmouth 57 Box Score - Recap
*Princeton 57 Harvard 69 [NBCSN] Box Score - Recap

Friday, February 22
*Harvard 65 Brown 47 [myRITV] Box Score - Recap
*Princeton 65 Columbia 40 Box Score - Recap
*Penn 79 Cornell 71 Box Score - Recap
*Dartmouth 67 Yale 78 Box Score - Recap

Saturday, February 23
*Dartmouth 50 Brown 59 Box Score - Recap
*Penn 41 Columbia 58 Box Score - Recap
*Princeton 72 Cornell 53 Box Score - Recap
*Harvard 72 Yale 66 [CBSSN] Box Score - Recap

Friday, March 1
*Brown 84 Cornell 65 Box Score - Recap
*Dartmouth 69 Penn 64 Box Score - Recap
*Harvard 53 Princeton 58 [ESPNU] Box Score - Recap
*Yale 46 Columbia 59 Box Score - Recap

Saturday, March 2
*Dartmouth 63 Princeton 68 Box Score - Recap
*Harvard 72 Penn 75 [NBCSN] Box Score - Recap
*Brown 61 Columbia 58 Box Score - Recap
*Yale 79 Cornell 70  Box Score - Recap

Friday, March 8
*Penn 66 Brown 64 [myRITV] Box Score - Recap
*Columbia 51 Harvard 56  Box Score - Recap
*Cornell 62 Dartmouth 76  Box Score - Recap
*Princeton 66 Yale 71 Box Score - Recap

Saturday, March 9
*Cornell 56 Harvard 65 [NBCSN] Box Score - Recap
*Princeton 67 Brown 80 Box Score - Recap
*Columbia 58 Dartmouth 64 Box Score - Recap
*Penn 65 Yale 79 Box Score - Recap

Tuesday, March 12
*Princeton 71 Penn 58 Box Score - Recap

  • Below is an updated list of players committed to Ivy League schools in the class of 2013 (unless otherwise noted):
Steven Spieth.(Jesuit HS) Dallas, TX, 6-6, F, Brown
Aram Martin (Miller School) Charlottesville, VA, 6-9, F, Brown
Lealand King (Brentwood School) Los Angeles, CA, 6-6, F, Brown
J.R. Hobbie (Manasquan HS) Manasquan, NJ, 6-4, G, Brown
Tavon Blackmon (Gonzaga) Washington, DC, 5-11, G, Brown
Matt Madigan (Mt. Tabor HS) Winston-Salem, NC, 6-4, G, Brown
Chris McComber (John McCrae School) Ottawa, ON, 6-7, F, Columbia
Kendall Jackson (Suffield Academy) Suffield, MA, 5-9, G, Columbia
Jeff Coby (Choate Rosemary Hall) Choate, CT, 6-6, F, Columbia
Ikemefuna Ngwudo (Milton Academy) Milton, MA, 6-5, F, Dartmouth 
Eli Harrison (Sisters HS) Sisters, OR, 6-6, F, Dartmouth 
Mike Flemming (N'field Mt Hermon, MA) Lincolnshire, IL, 6-1, G, Dartmouth 
Matt Fraschila (Highland Park HS) Highland Park, TX, 5-10 G, Harvard 
Hunter Meyers (Douglas HS) Minden, NV, 6-6, F, Harvard 
Zena Edosomwan (Northfield Mt Hermon, MA) Hollywood, CA, 6-9, F, Harvard 
Matt Howard (A.J. Flora HS), Columbia, S.C., 6-4, G, Penn 
Dylan Jones (Village HS) Houston, TX, 6-8, F, Penn 
Dave Winfield (Harvard Westlake HS) Hollywood, CA, 6-8, F, Penn 
Tony Bagtas (Westlake HS) Atlanta, GA, 5-11, G, Penn
Khyan Rayner (Jesuit HS) Portland, OR, 5-9, G, Princeton
Henry Caruso (Serra HS) San Mateo, CA, 6-4, G, Princeton 
Hashim Moore (Hun School, NJ) Ft. Lauderdale, FL, 6-5, F, Princeton 
Spencer Weisz (Seton Hall Prep) Florham Park, NJ, 6-4, G, Princeton 
Steven Cook (New Trier HS) Winnetka, IL, 6-5, G, Princeton
Pete Miller (Northfield Mount Hermon, MA) Northfield, MA, 6-10, C, Princeton 
Amir Bell (East Brunswick HS) E.Brunswick, NJ, 6-4, G, Princeton (2014) 
Sam Downy (Lake Forest HS) Lake Forest, IL, 6-9, C, Yale 
Anthony Dallier (Northfield Mount Hermon, MA) Wexford, PA, 6-6, F, Yale 
JT Flowers (Lincoln HS) Portland, OR, 6-5, F, Yale


  • Below, a look at the Cornell Coaching Plantations, the coaches in the NCAA with ties to Cornell University.
    Jeff Jackson (Cornell Class of '84)-Head Coach of Furman University (Division I).
    Jon Jaques (Cornell Class of '10)-Assistant coach at Columbia University. Played for Cornell under Steve Donahue.

    Kevin App (Cornell Class of '07)
    -Assistant coach at Army. Played for Cornell under Steve Donahue.

    Yanni Hufnagel (Cornell Class of '06)-Assistant coach at Harvard. Served as student-manager at Cornell under Steve Donahue.

    Steve Donahue-Head coach of Boston College. Served as head coach at Cornell between 2000-2010.

    Zach Spiker-Head coach of Army. He served as an assistant coach at Cornell under Steve Donahue from 2004-2009.

    Joe Burke-Head coach of Skidmore College (Division III). He was an assistant coach at Cornell under Steve Donahue between 2001-2004.

    Izzi Metz-Former Head coach Hobart College (Division III). He served as a Cornell assistant coach for five seasons between 2001-2006 under Steve Donahue and is currently an assistant coach and head of basketball operations at Boston College under Donahue.

    Nat Graham-Associate Head Coach (assistant) at Boston College under Steve Donahue. Served as an assistant coach under Donahue at Cornell from 2005-2010.

    Woody Kampmann-Assistant coach at Boston College under Steve Donahue. Served as an assistant coach under Donahue at Cornell from 2007-2010.

    Ryan Woerner-Former student intern coach under Steve Donahue during the 2009-2010 season and assistant coach for Cornell's women's team during 2010-2011. Currently director of basketball operations at St. Peter's.

    Steve Robinson-Assistant coach at North Carolina under Roy Williams. He was an assistant coach for Mike Dement at Cornell for two seasons, including on the 1988 Ivy League Championship team.

    Paul Fortier-Assistant coach at Washington under Lorenzo Romar. He served as an assistant coach at Cornell during 2003-2005 under Steve Donahue.

    Desmond Oliver-Assistant coach at Charlotte. He was an assistant coach at Cornell between 1998-2000 under Scott Thompson.

    Ricky Yahn-Assistant coach at Longwood. He was an assistant coach at Cornell during 2010-2011 under Bill Courtney.

  • Throughout the year we provide periodic updates on Cornell's alumni playing professionally. Below, some updates:
-Jeff Aubry ('99) (Halcones Rojos, LNBP Mexico premier league/Arecibo Capitanes, BSN Puerto Rico premier league)-As of March 18, Aubry, who had been injured for most of the season, averaged 6.0 points and 5.0 rebounds per game prior to the injury for Halcones of the LNBP in Mexico, the country's premier league. Halcones finished the season 32-8 and in 2nd place out of 16 teams in the league. Halcones was eliminated in the semifinals of the playoffs.  A 6'11" center, Aubry splits his time in both the Mexican and Puerto Rican professional leagues. A well traveled pro player, Aubry spent several seasons in the NBA D League in the early part of his career with the Fayetteville Patriots and   Florida Flame and earned honorable mention all NBA D League in 2002. During his more than a decade of pro experience, Aubry has also played professionally in  the ABA (Miami Tropics) and abroad  in Puerto Rico (Arecibo, Leones de Ponce, and Santurce, BSN Puerto Rico), Spain (Tarragona, LEB Gold Spain 2nd Division), Mexico (Halcones Rojos and Chihuahua Dorados, LNBP Mexico premier league), Poland (Slask Wroclaw, PLK Poland premier league), Argentina (Libertad Sunchales, Liga A Argentina), Uruguay (Hebraica, LUB Uruguay )and Peru (Alas Peruanas, Peru).
-Alex Tyler ('10) (Rockville Victors, Atlantic Coast Professional Basketball League)-Tyler is in his rookie season with the Victors.
-Louis Dale ('10) (KAOD Dramas, Greece A1 premier league)-As of March 18, Dale is averaging 7.8 points, 2.8 rebounds and 2.2 assists per game.  KAOD is 6-14 and in 11th place out of 14 teams in the A1.  Dale spent his  first two professional seasons both in Germany's BBK Bundesliga, the country's premier league with Goettingen.
-Jeff Foote ('10) (Zalgiris, Lithuania LKL premier league/EuroLeague/VTB Russian League)-As of March 18, Foote is averaging 9.1  points and 6.0 rebounds per game for Zalgiris in the Lithuanian premier league, the LKL.  Zalgiris is 8-0 and in 5th place out of 12 teams in the LKL.  Foote was named to the LKL's All Star team for the 2012-2013 season.  Zalgiris also finished 8-2 in the 6-team Group C in the opening round of the EuroLeague.  In EuroLeague action, Foote is averaging 5.6 points and 2.4 rebounds per game.  Zalgiris is now in the Top Sixteen's Group E with a 4-7 record.  In a third league of competition, the Eastern European VTB League, Zalgiris is 15-2 and in 1st place out of 10 teams in Group B.  Zalgiris is currently ranked #5 in Europe.  Prior to the start of the 2012-2013 season, Foote played with the Brooklyn Nets in the NBA Summer League and participated in the team's free agent mini-camp.  During 2011-2012, Foote averaged 15.1 points and 8.9 rebounds per game in the NBA D-League for the Springfield Armor (the Brooklyn Nets' affiliate) after being named a starter at the D-League's All-Star Game during FebruaryFoote finished the D-League season ranked 4th in double-doubles and also 4th in rebounds. Foote averaged 1.0 points and 1.5 rebounds per game in 4 games for the NBA's New Orleans Hornets during a 10-day contract between March 9 and March 19. Foote was ranked by the D-League as its #6 overall NBA prospect.  During April 2012 he was profiled in a video on NBA.com.  He participated in the Portland Trailblazers' 2011-2012 preseason training camp and played the 2011-2012 preseason with with Zastal of       the PLK Poland premier league and the full 2010-2011 season in Spain (Melilla, LEB Gold Spain 2nd division) while on loan from Euro League powerhouse Maccabi Tel Aviv of Israel's premier league.
  • Below is a directory listing of some Twitter feeds associated with the Cornell basketball program.
-Josh Wexler ('88)
-Rich Medina ('92)
-Bo Buttenback ('98)
-Cody Toppert ('05)
-Steve Cobb ('05)
-Ryan Rourke ('06)
-Andrew Naeve ('07)
-Jason Canady ('08)
-Khaliq Gant ('09)
-Conor Mullen ('09)
-Brian Kreefer ('09)
-Ryan Wittman ('10)
-Pete Reynolds ('10)
-Jon Jaques ('10)
-Louis Dale ('10)
-Alex Tyler ('10)
-Geoff Reeves ('10)
-Jeff Foote ('10)
-Andre Wilkins ('10) (inactive)
-Aaron Osgood ('11)
-Adam Wire ('11)
-Max Groebe ('12)
-Chris Wroblewski ('12)
-Andrew Ferry ('12)
-The Cornell Rebounders Club
-Jonathan Gray ()
-Miles Asafo Adjei ()
-Peter McMillan ()
-Errick Peck ()
-Josh Figini ()
-Galal Cancer ()
-Ned Tomic ()
-Dominick Scelfo ()
-Jake Mathews ()
-Dwight Tarwater ()
-Manny Sahota ()
-Dave LaMore ()
-Shonn Miller ()
-Devin Cherry ()
-Nolan Cressler ()
-Braxston Bunce ()
-Holt Harmon ()
-Robert Mischler ()
-David Onuorah (committed recruit)
-Robert Hatter (committed recruit)
-Desmond Fleming (committed recruit)
-Jeremy Hartigan, Cornell SID
-Assistant Coach Mike Blaine ()
-Assistant Coach Marlon Sears ()
-Assistant Coach Arlen Galloway ()
-Brian Delaney, ESPN Radio Ithaca ()
-Barry Leonard, Cornell Redcast/Play-By-Play Annnouncer
-Ed Boulat, Ithaca Journal
-Cornell Daily Sun Sports ()
-Slope Sports ()
-WVBR Sports
-Former assistant coach, Jay Larranaga
-Former assistant coach, Ricky Yahn ()
-Former head coach, Steve Donahue ()
-Former intern assistant Ryan Woerner ()
-Former assistant coach, Zach Spiker ()
-Former assistant coach, Nat Graham ()
-Former assistant coach, Woody Kampmann ()
-Former assistant coach, Izzi Metz ()
-Former assistant coach, Paul Fortier ()

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38 comments:

Anonymous said...

I googled Princeton to see if they are playing in the CBI or CIT again. There was an article saying that they would likely decline a bid if invited, and that Coach Henderson was "lukewarm" on the possibility. Why decline? Classroom time (right). Or do these tournaments effectively cost money for the participants?

Anonymous said...

Any more info on why Galal left the program and what his status is for next year?

Anonymous said...

Regarding your tweets about Amaker to Northwestern or anywhere else, he's never leaving Harvard. He is a great, great recruiter but a mediocre developer of talent and a poor game-day coach. Right now, he's in a conference where, by rule, his opponents are limited in the amount of talent they can recruit, but he apparently is not similarly constrained. Why would go elsewhere? It's a perfect situation for his considerable, but uneven skill set. He made about $600,000 per year at Michigan. Assuming that the Friends of Harvard Basketball group is paying him roughly the same amount and that his wife has an appointment at Harvard Medical School, it would probably take well into seven figures for him to considering giving up the comfortable Harvard situation for him and his wife. He turned down $1.1 million per annum for five years from Miami. So how much would Northwestern or somebody else have to offer him to pry him out of Cambridge? It's not happening. Amaker could be at Harvard until he retires. That could be three decades away.

Anonymous said...

You forgot to mention the possibility that Amaker is fired for some sort of scandal, which seems likely given the track record.

Anonymous said...

We can criticize Amaker about his use of boosters and aggressive recruiting tactics, and for good reason. But he's won three Ivy titles in a row and is a virtual lock to win another next season. He got a top 50 kid to pass up schools like UCLA and attend prep school for a year to get his test scores up. He's doing stuff this league has never seen in the modern era.

If we were winning using the same tactics, I don't think we'd be complaining. We'd be lining up wearing our bright red shirts and taking days off from work to cheer on the Big Red in the NCAA tournament.

Is it fair? That depends on who you ask. But they get to play in March Madness, which is only a far off dream for us. Heck, we don't even have a point guard for next season.

I also disagree that Amaker is a mediocre developer of talent at Harvard. How so? Siyani Chambers was ROY, Wes Saunders almost won POY, and they're both underclassmen. Kenyatta Smith made huge strides, Steve M-M is very good. One of his players, Jeremy Lin, is in the NBA (although Amaker didn't recruit Lin). Almost their entire starting lineup was All Ivy or honorable mention.

Anonymous said...

This blog has previously said that it expects a transfer to join the team next year. Is that still in the works? Also, wouldn't a transfer from another school have to sit out a year, unless cleared by the NCAA?

Anonymous said...

Agree with 3:36 that Amaker's is unlikely to ever leave Harvard, but for somewhat different reasons. Not only does he seem to genuinely enjoy the Harvard brand, but also, he already had his shot at the BCS (twice), and he failed at it (he was "Mr NIT" as someone said). At Harvard, he can use the Harvard brand to recruit talent that is far above the rest of the league -- talent that compensates for his coaching deficiencies. He can then go back to the tournament year after year.

The only scenario in which I can imagine him leaving is if he grows as a coach to the point where, like Cornell 2010, Harvard can consistently compete with top BCS schools and dominate the league like a BCS among mid-majors, not with the multiple losses and close games with which it's won the league over the past few years.

Anonymous said...

Anon 7:01: I think that year is next year. Harvard will be loaded, if they get back Casey/Curry/Giger.

Think about it:
C: Smith, Zena
PF: Casey, Steve M
SF: Wes Saunders, Hunter M.
SG: Curry/Rivard
PG: Chambers/Curry

And that's not everyone. They still have Travis, Cummins, Okolie, etc.

It shouldn't be close. If it is, that will really reveal Amaker's flaws as a coach.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 7:01 PM, we may be able to test your hypothesis next year because, if Curry and Casey come back and Edosomwan shows up on schedule, I don't think that Harvard will be winning the conference with multiple losses or maybe even close wins. Harvard's nemesis to date Princeton will be dropping back to the pack and the Crimson will be a legitimate Top 25 team or better.

Harvard's advantage over Princeton this year was guard play, which is usually determinative in this league. Next year, Harvard's BACK-UP point guard, whichever one sits at tip-off, will be a returning all-Ivy player, either first-team or second team. How many all-Ivy back-ups have you ever since in this conference?

You'll get your 14-0 Ivy champion and then we'll see if Amaker wants to make the jump.

Anonymous said...

To Anonymous March 18 5:18, Amaker could be considered a middling developer of talent in part *because* Chambers and Saunders showed up and immediately lit up the league. Amaker's players are great recruits, collectively the best the Ivies have ever seen -- agreed. But they don't seem to get that much better over the years. Keith Wright actually regressed his senior year after his POY season as a junior. I'd further argue that, given what we've seen out of Jeremy Lin since graduation, he was not well developed at Harvard.

Anonymous said...

Anon 9:00. I couldn't agree more. Harvard may have the most complete collection of talent next year in modern ivy history. Harvard is again widely reported as a finalist with a number of top kids in 2014. Meanwhile, this blog is wondering whether a D3 kid rejected by Columbia can play point for us next year as a freshman because we have so few options. We have no true three. This is frustrating.

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

Do any of you have any idea how many guys on the 2008-2010 teams were "REJECTED" by Penn, Princeton and other Ivies? A whole lot of them.

Everyone keeps talking about Harvard rolling through the league. Well, in the last two years, Harvard lost 5 Ivy games (23-5). Cornell's 2008-2010 teams lost 4 Ivy games over THREE seasons (38-4).

Harvard is not dominating yet.

Some of you dangerously assume Harvard will dominate next year. Those assumptions are based on (1) a freshman qualifying academically, (2) several seniors returning from an academic scandal, (3) the aforementioned freshman living up to unfair expectations and after a serious knee injury, (4) those 5th years seniors returning to competitive basketball after not being around a practice or a game for a year, (5) no other Ivy team making a massive leap forward.

Those are a whole lot of assumptions.

I remember when everyone said Harvard 2012 would go 14-0 and reach the Sweet 16 like Cornell 2010. No and no. In fact, not even close.



Anonymous said...

Constantly mentioning Cornell 2010 is silly. All of the kids from that team are gone. The entire coaching staff from those years are gone.

Yes, it was a great ride and set the benchmark. But it's over. Let's not be the 30 year old who still brags about being homecoming king.

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

Yes, let's not mention the only Ivy League team in the last 33 years to win 2 NCAA Tournament games.

Yes, let's not mention the only Ivy League team in the last 33 years to finish ranked in the Top 20 in the final poll.

This is ancient history folks. It happened way, way, way back in the olden times of 2010.

Let's move on and discuss something recent... like 2011. Onward!

Anonymous said...

Oh okay... I was sharing Anon 10:49's concerns about PGs & recruiting & general state of the program, but let me try to understand our situation CBB ...

Courtney's first class and several members of his second class looked impressive. We thought that we we were looking at some of the best recruits coming out of high school that we've ever seen. The fact that his first two years of recruiting yielded only two consistent players means that we were wrong. It's not that Courtney isn't good at developing players, it's that we simply overestimated the talent of our roster. We especially just overestimated the bigs & guards; they all turned out terrible except for the one who just happens to be injured. In the guard situation, especially, including guards who had played in state championship games, not only were these not some of the best recruits coming out of HS that we'd ever gotten, they turned out to be the worst guards we've had in over a decade. A Div 3 kid we're getting next year will be better because a bunch of Donahue's kids were Div 3 level. It's not that Courtney's horrible record is recruiting more difficult, it's that all those sweet-looking players we got sweet 16 were actually bad and Div 3 kids are a step up. Bill Courtney is a great coach, and none of the poor outcomes of the past three years should suggest he is anything less.

Okay.

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

No. You completely missed the entire argument.

Courtney's problems are not with the frosh and sophs. He doesn't have strong juniors and seniors.

Can you really compare Cornell's seniors and juniors with Harvard's juniors and seniors? No way.

Figini, Chemerinski, Gray, McMillan and Miles were all largely recruited at the D-III level.

Casey, Webster, Curry and Rivard were all established mid major guys with lots of offers. Even Webster had an offer to George Washington/A-10.

Bill needs to fill his roster out with the guys he wants to run his system.

You are judging him based on HALF of a team (juniors and seniors), recruited by Donahue to play the Donahue system.

Even the former Cornell coaches think the Cornell fans are unfair.

And you are unfair.

Bill runs a very aggressive defense and an isolation offense. Half is team is ill-equipped to play in that style. Why not wait until he has 4 classes on board before you write the obituary.

I mean, we all realize you are impatient, but you can at least try to remain cognizant of reality.

Anonymous said...

I'm confused by posters who keep saying Bill's guards are the most heavily recruited in the program's history. Galal had an offer from Albany. Devin had an offer from Penn. Cressler had an offer from Yale.

Chris W. had more offers than any of these guys from similar or better schools. Collin Robinson came over from USC, etc.

Let's give Coach C. a chance to get his people into place.

Anonymous said...

You are telling us to be patient, but last spring you said we would have as much talent this season as anyone in the league.

Target seems to be shifting.

Anonymous said...

Its easy to dis this year's juniors and seniors as "D-III level guys" who lacked the talent to play ball pressure/passing lane defense and isolation offense (whatever that is) and pin the blame on them, because the other possibility - that they would have excelled under Donahue's system - can never be proven.

Of course, most coaches would argue that one must employ a system that is best suited for the talent they have. But let's put that concept aside.

Courtney's recruits - Miller, Cherry, and the now departed Cancer - played plenty these past two years, and Cressler (a talented Courtney recruit who is not regarded as a ball pressure/passing lane defense/isolation offense kind of talent) played plenty this past year. But clearly they didn't have enough help around them to avoid being last in the league in defense. However, help is waiting in the wings. Now that they no longer have to wait behind the D-III level guys, the up tempo uber-athletic, ball pressure/passing lane defense guys recruited by Courtney - Bunce, Mischler, Harmon, Giddens, Lamore and Tomic - should step right in and replace those D-III level guys and thrive in a ball pressure/passing lane defense and an "isolation offense". Add in some freshmen (they are always ready right away) and the path to a 'ship is easy to see.

Now that those D-III level non-Courtney guys are almost all gone............

Maybe you oughta stop with the silly, artificial, divisive labeling of players as Courtney and non-Courtney guys. I doubt the players look at each other that way. And I doubt Courtney looks at them that way either. My guess is Courtney wants tough, diversely talented, committed guys who want to win - period.

Anonymous said...

How come when it suits your purposes, Harvard is composed of "all established mid-major guys with lots of offers," but when the rest of us opine that Harvard will be absolutely loaded next year, we are accused of "dangerously assuming that Harvard will dominate next year"?

So you're allowed to say that Harvard is jam-packed with talent that's never before been recruited onto a single Ivy League team, but readers are not?

By the way, I have no problem continuing to celebrate the achievements of the 2010 team. Those were great times. But you bring up that team not as a fantastic memory, but as some oblique way to detract from Harvard's talent advantage next season.

I don't come to celebrate Harvard. They're cheating. They are bad for the Ivy League. Scalise and Amaker should be forced to live by Ivy principles. But none of that has anything to do with the Cornell 2010 team.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 3/18 3:36 PM, there's an anonymous poster on a Harvard Crimson article who says "the rumor is that Amaker makes $1.2 million." If true, that would certainly explain why he turned down $1.1 million from Miami. Same money at Harvard playing one-twentieth the talent in terms of opponents.

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

The theme of my posts have always been consistent.

Bill's recruits (just the frosh and sophs) are the most highly recruited in Cornell's recent history. Lots of guys passing up scholarships.

This year's team was supposed to have a 7'0" 250 lb. match up problem in the middle. It did not happen. Bunce was injured and the team did not want to waste a year of his eligibility by bringing him back in January. We all witnessed what DNH, Kuakamensah, and Maia could do for their teams. Don't write off the impact of losing the most heralded of that group.

Penn and Cornell were in a brutal recruiting battle for Bunce. Cornell won the battle and he's a great addition to the program.

Unfortunately, Cornell did not have him this year.

Cornell also did not have for 4 Ivy League games (30% of the conference)--Shonn Milller, Devin Cherry, Galal Cancer. We also lost for nearly 50% of the Ivy season, Jon Gray.

When we lost Cancer for a few games, we then felt the impact of say not having Jake Matthews ready to step in.

Given the above, Cornell was not in a position to get to the postseason.

Harvard has four full classes of Amaker's guys on board. And they are good. He's got a bunch of top 150 guys who had high major offers (Kenyatta Smith, Mike Hall, and Steve Moundou Missi) and a lot of excellent mid major recruited type guys that turned out to be outstanding Ivy players (Chambers, Rivard, Webster, Casey, Curry to name a few).

Bill needs to fill his roster with a half dozen to ten guys that each had a bunch of offers to match Harvard.

If you look at Bill's classes-- each class he has added at least 1-2 gems.

First it was Miller. Then it was Cressler. So, we are on the way, we've started to put that core together (Miller, Bunce, Onuorah, Cressler, Cherry, Hatter, Lamore, Giddens). Give Bill time to fill out his roster with four classes of talent and guys that can thrive in his system.



Anonymous said...

Well, I'd bet I'm not the only one tired of the excuses. Injuries happen.

Both to us and other teams. Hell, Penn lost it's best player for 20+ games - effectively the entire Ivy season.

And if Cancer left for basketball related reasons, you can't put him in the same category as injuries.

As several people have said, I'm very leery of anointing two guys (Bunce and Onuorah) who have not played a minute of college ball as our saviors next year. Some big guys work out right away (DNH, Kuakamensah), some don't (Harmon, Mike Hall).

And even if they are ready defensively, the apparent hole at PG will make their job even harder at the other end.

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

Nobody likes excuses. But these injuries were/are real.

At the end of the day, Cornell did not have 5 of its top 7-8 guys (Bunce, Miller, Gray, Cherry, Cancer).

If you think Cornell needed to win without those guys, you are entitled to your opinion.

IMO-- no Ivy team would win without 4-5 starters.

Anonymous said...

Coach Courtney deserves time and support and respect, without a doubt. Far more than he gets from many who post here.

However, one can defend that entirely defensible position and the merits of Courtney's system, and even point to the impact of injuries, without scapegoating the juniors and seniors as D-3 level players who were "ill-equipped" for Courtney's "system".

Apart from Miller, Cancer, Cherry and Cressler, there were 4-5 other healthy freshmen and sophomore players recruited by Courtney (presumably with his system in mind) who could have been called upon at any time and inserted into the rotation this past season.

But, apparently Courtney saw Peck, Eitan, Johnny, Figini, Miles, Scelfo and Tarwater as better options, because he played them instead of 5 of his "system" recruits, and those juniors and seniors were a huge part of Cornell being 5-3 in the League and in the hunt for a championship with 4 home games awaiting.

Cornell's season effectively ended BEFORE Miller and Cherry were injured, and BEFORE Cancer quit, when Cornell lost to the Ps at home minus ONLY Johnny - ironically, one of those "ill-equipped" D-III guys.

Not sure why Cornell collapsed on the weekend of the Ps at home when the schedule was tailor made to make a run. Maybe it was the absence of Johnny. But, overall, the juniors and seniors have been part of the stability and progress in the program, not the "problem".

Anonymous said...

I think CBB has just been repeating elaborate excuses for Courtney to himself that he begins to believe his own Kool Aid.

Not only have Donahue's recruits contributed mightily to the program, Courtney's best year so far might actually have been his first year when he had nothing but Donahue's recruits. KenPom and such sites would suggest that, even before the last 4 games, Courtney's 1st year was actually the best he's hard, and significantly; they were marginally a top 200 team. Back then we were moaning about all the close losses we had to all sorts of decent mid-majors and sometimes low-BCS schools, now those kind of schools beat us by double digits. Now we barely escape cupcakes. Lucky for us this past season, the middle of the Ivy had dropped into cupcake territory itself with Penn losing all their seniors and Yale losing Mangano and Willhite, but will it be the same next year, especially with the bottom of the Ivy (Dart/Brown) improving significantly? I can't think of any team I'm confident we'll sweep.

Courtney has been around as long or longer than five out of seven of the other Ivy coaches; people have to stop treating him with baby gloves. The last 4 games won't somehow trance us into forgetting the entire season, or his entire career.

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

Not true.

First-- Amaker, Jones and Jerome Allen were in the Ivy on their teams before Bill arrived.

Second-- Kyle Smith and Cormier came at the same time as Bill.

Only Mitch Henderson and Mike Martin were hired afterwards.

Mike Martin inherited a team with multiple starters returning-- including Sullivan, Halpern and McGonagil.

Bill inherited 2-3 guys from the rotation-- Wroblewski, Coury and Peck and only one of those started.

Bill's only season where Cornell actually had a chance of winning an Ivy title was this year. At 5-3, Cornell was really in the race and was heating up.

Yes, Bill used Steve's recruits extensively. Why? First, he is a class guy. He chose not to cut his predecessor's recruits like Amaker, and Cormier did. Second, Bill felt you need to win with experience. He wanted to believe in his senior leaders.

Someday Bill's senior leaders will be his guys--- like Miller and Cresssler.

Anonymous said...

Let's not excessively torture the facts.

Anonymous 3:31 said "5 coaches have been around as long or longer".

You seem to completely disagree with this - when in reality 4 of the coaches have been around as long or longer, and Allen was hired 4 months before Courtney (and Allen had a prior total of 3 months of 3rd assistant in his entire coaching resume).

In my book, that makes him mostly correct.

In terms of whose recruits Courtney
played - he, like every other coach in the world, plays the guys he thinks will give him the best chance to win.

As CBB as often said - Lamore, Harmon, etc. simply did not earn starts (or even meaningful playing time). Given that none of us were overly enamored with the play of Eitan or Figini - it makes it very doubtful that the young bigs will become anything other than role players. Foote is an exception, but typically guys who don't play much early are much, much less likely to become stars or or even starters.

One of the reasons we all love guys like Jaques having a big senior year after not doing much before is that it so rarely happens. (Note that rarely does not mean never - it does happen, but the odds are long.)

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

Again, Jerome Allen was hired in September 2009. In other words, he was on the Penn bench 1 year before Bill Courtney arrived in Ithaca and Jerome got to choose some of the guys he would later coach-- including Penn's rising senior class.

As for Lamore/Giddens etc. Only Bill knows the reasons why he favored the seniors. To know Bill is to understand that he is very loyal. I truly believe he wanted to reward his seniors as much as he could. He even played McMillan when he had the opportunity to do so.

You can't compare Jaques to the current guys on the team.

Jaques did not play at all for 3 full years. Then he exploded as a senior.

Lamore and Giddens just finished their sophomore years. They might be playing as juniors. Jaques did not play until he was a senior. It is quite common for guys not to play until their junior year.

Jason Battle, Brian Kreefer, Adam Wire are all perfect examples of guys that played far greater roles as juniors/seniors over their first two seasons.

Anonymous said...

First, Allen was promoted to head coach in Dec2009. Courtney was hired in April2010.

That's 4 months, not a year.

If you think that the prior 3 months Allen spent as the 3rd assistant (which was the sum total of his coaching experience) gives him a advantage over the prior 17 years Courtney had been a college coach - well, you may stand alone in that opinion.

And who said that the young bigs 'wouldn't play'?

I said that after not getting meaningful minutes early it was doubtful they would become stars or even starters. If you compare players who play a lot as freshmen and sophs to those who do not, there is an obvious correlation to later success.

Again, no one has said they will not play. But a rational observer would conclude it is unlikely that they will be the crucial pieces leading us out of the middle of the pack.

By way of benchmarking - taking the first and second team all-ivy this year and looking at the number of minutes they played as a freshmen (excluding Chambers, who obviously is a freshman).

On average, they played 623 minutes as freshman.

LaMore has played 172 minutes in TWO years.

Giddons has played 155 minutes in TWO years.

Harmon has played 19 minutes in an injury-shortened year.

One more time, for clarity. It's not impossible - I hope they work like crazy and are all-Ivy as seniors. But it's unlikely.

Anonymous said...

Here are career minutes by season (F-So-J-Sr) for:
Battle: 155-451-267-222
Kreefer: 181-362-269-380
Wire: 29-432-397-552

For Jason, Kreef, and Wire, the big jump in PT came after their freshman, not sophomore years. All three came up particularly big in 08-09, after Jason Hartford graduated and Adam Gore tore his second ACL. On the whole, they did not see increased time over what they played during their sophomore years. Kreef and Wire were definitely contributing members of the eight-man rotation for two of the three championship seasons.

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

Cornell has many guys that don't play early in their careers--- whether it as a frosh or a soph--- but then make a jump. So the numbers provided above re: Battle et al clearly illustrate this fact. Accordingly, I would not write off Lamore or Giddens or any other young guy from making a serious contribution as a junior or senior.

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Allen was Penn's top assistant in the fall of 2009. Penn's entire roster consists of kids he personally recruited. Let me say that again. There is not a single kid in the Penn program that Allen was not responsible for bringing to Penn.
Not the case with Bill Courtney. Next year's seniors are not his recruits. Allen has a full year head start on B.C. in the Ivy League.

Anonymous said...

Often, people get more minutes in their sophomore and junior years if a more effective player has graduated. If talent displayed in practice shows that they deserve a starting position over an older player, however, they will often get it (i.e. Ski over Reeves). If Donahue's leftovers were so ineffective that they were contributing to our woes, why didn't Courtney's recruits start in their stead at some point? You honestly want us to believe that being nice trumped wanting to win? That he made us sit through all these tortuous seasons out of kindness and loyalty? Are you joking?

Unlike some others, however, I don't believe that Courtney's recruits COULDN'T have become effective replacements. Other league teams like Brown and Penn have shown that all manner of freshmen can start out jittery and become better with experience over the course of the season. I believe that Courtney did indeed manage to land some swell recruits in the wake of the sweet 16 run, and that the reason all but 2 have so far proven ineffective is because he is a poor developer of talent and a poor coach. Not only do we know that our offense often looks like incomprehensible nonsense, but inconsistency has plagued this team since Courtney took over; inconsistency has plagued both new recruits and Donahue's leftover players. When players do develop, it is extremely slowly, and even after two or three years, by graduation they often fail to be as effective as even late season Penn frosh. I suspect that Nolan and Shonn are great players in spite of Courtney not because of him.

Anonymous said...

Also, fine, you want to claim that Allen recruited everybody on his roster, his roster still has no seniors and only 1 significantly contributing junior (Cartwright) after Doc got hurt; his team is still extremely young. He still managed to coach his freshmen and sophomores, including pgs and bigs and whatnot, to be more effective than Courtney has managed to do with his freshmen and sophomores.

And what about Brown? Mike Martin has nothing but preselected players. You're like "well he still inherited 3 starters". Oh boo hoo. Courtney in his third year with a multitude of returning players can't be expected to do as well as a baby-faced first year coach with an entirely preselected roster, 3 returning starters, 2 freshmen starters, and half a roster because.... why exactly? Especially a team that was 2-12 last year? If the improvement wasn't due to coaching I don't know what it was. Many other Ivy coaches are simply outdoing Courtney; stop trying to pretend that they had special advantages.

Anonymous said...

Jerome Allen was hired as an assistant coach by Penn on September 1, 2009, nearly halfway through the recruiting year. At this time, Mike Martin had been an assistant at Penn for well over three years. We will never know who the "top assistant" really was in this situation, because those things are not usually stated, but seniority often is honored... and Martin had more of it.

Jerome Allen was hired as interim head coach by Penn on December 14, 2009; the interim title was removed March 31, 2010. Bill Courtney was hired as head coach by Cornell on April 23, 2010.

Being generous, there's about four months difference in their length of tenure as head coaches, favoring Allen.

Anonymous said...

Some of you posters are worse than Pac-12 fans. Seriously, you were calling to fire the head coach 1.5 years into his tenure at an Ivy League school, which automatically means it can't compete for more than a handful of top 200 kids.

Anonymous said...

Penn fan here so I have no opinion on Courtney as a coach (at least nothing beyond thinking Miller and Cressler were great pickups).

That said your information about Allen is not correct. Both Coach Martin and Coach Gallagher lead recruiting for Penn when Allen was brought in as a 3rd assistant. He couldn't even recruit off campus. In fact Miller was trying to keep his job based on the supposed potential of the rising senior class.

Once he was named Interim Coach he of course aimed to retain Miller's recruits (all rising seniors except Doc who Allen brought in when Kevin Panzer backed out and went to Nevada). I guess you could say he chose to re-recruit them so that's true, but considering the timing his best hope was keeping guys already committed rather than start all over WAY late in the game.

Anonymous said...

Whoever added the career minutes for Battle, etc. - thanks, you proved MY point about the typical career track of freshmen who don't play a lot of minutes.

Battle, Keefer, and Wire were all contributors, but my point was about full time starters and stars.

I never said the LaMore and Giddens would not play, nor did I say that would not contribute.

But we need for players to lead us out of the wilderness, not just guys who can be 7th or 8th rotation players.

I'm sure those guys love their Mom's, and are nice to animals. I hope they flourish.

But there is an obvious and indisputable point here - the vast majority of players who are first-line starters or make at least HM all-ivy played a fair amount as freshmen.

Regardless of how we feel about it, that is empirically true.

And as was stated, Allen was not head assistant at Penn, and as 3rd assistant he was not allowed to do any off-campus recruiting.

So it turns out that it actually is true that there are only 2 Ivy coaches with (meaningfully) more tenure that Courtney.