Sunday, March 3, 2013

News and Notes: Sunday Edition

Below, news and notes for Sunday...

  • Cornell graduate, Jeff Foote (Cornell '10) is currently averaging 9.1 points and 6.0 rebounds per game for Zalgiris in the Lithuanian premier league (LKL) and was named to the league All Star team.  Foote is his team's 3rd leading scorer while Zalgiris currently sits ranked No. 5 in all of Europe.  See additional alumni news further down below in this post.
  • Below, links to our recap sections from each of Cornell's games during the 2012-2013 season. 
  • Cornell RPI WatchThe RPI (Rating Percentage Index) is a measure of strength of schedule and how a team does against that schedule. It does not consider the margin of victory, but only whether or not a team won and where the game was played (home/away/neutral court). The formula is 25% team winning percentage (WP), 50% opponents' average winning percentage (OWP), and 25% opponents' opponents' average winning percentage (OOWP). (See: for a further explanation of the formula.) The RPI may be the most influential factor in NCAA Tournament seeding. Cornell's RPI rank as of March 3 is No. 241 out of 344 total Division I teams. While neither the Ken Pomeroy or the Sagarin Rankings (USA Today) are used by the NCAA Tournament Selection Committee, the site ranks Cornell No. 257 in the nation, while the Sagarin Rankings (USA Today) have Cornell at No. 250 Both sites are predominantly used by fans and the media.

Friday, November 9
MIT 54 Harvard 69 Box Score - Recap
UMBC 75 Penn 80  Box Score - Recap

Saturday, November 10
Western Michigan 55 Cornell 63 Box Score - Recap
Princeton 57 Buffalo 53 Box Score - Recap
Yale 82 Sacred Heart 85 (OT) [SNY] [Conn 6] Box Score - Recap  
Columbia 68 Furman 47 Box Score - Recap
Maine 54 Dartmouth 67  Box Score - Recap

Sunday, November 11
Brown 58 Binghamton 49 Box Score - Recap

Monday, November 12
Yale 35 Saint Joseph’s 61 (Coaches v. Cancer) 
Box Score - Recap
Penn 69 Delaware 84 (Preseason NIT)
 Box Score - Recap

Tuesday, November 13
Harvard 64 Massachusetts 67 (ESPN Tip Off Marathon) [ESPN]
 Box Score - Recap
Penn 53 Fairfield 62 
(Preseason NIT) [ESPN3] Box Score - Recap
Northeastern 67 Princeton 66 Box Score - Recap
New Hampshire 72 Dartmouth 58 
Box Score - Recap
Haverford 40 Columbia 74
 Box Score - Recap

Wednesday, November 14
St. Bonaventure at Cornell [NBCSN]
 Box Score - Recap

Thursday, November 15
Brown 71 Central Connecticut State 86 
Box Score - Recap

Friday, November 16
Saint Peter’s 68 Cornell 64
 Box Score - Recap
Rutgers 58 Princeton 5
Box Score - Recap
Manhattan 45 Harvard 79 Box Score
Yale 56 Evansville 66 
(Coaches v. Cancer) Box Score - Recap

Saturday, November 17
 61 Penn 59 Box Score - Recap
Yale 63 Buffalo 59 (Evansville, Ind.) (Coaches v. Cancer) Box Score
Brown 70 Maine 68 Box Score - Recap
Marist 67 Columbia 62 Box Score - Recap

Sunday. November 18
Yale 47 Western Illinois 59 (Oakland City, Ind.) 
Box Score - Recap
Cornell 40 Wisconsin 73 (Las Vegas Invitational) [ESPN3]  
Box Score - Recap

Monday, November 19
Penn 68 Fordham 70 (Preseason NIT, Bethlehem PA) Box Score - Recap

Tuesday, November 20
Columbia 75 Villanova 57 [ESPN3] Box Score - Recap
Harvard 56 Saint Joseph’s 75 [NBCSN] Box Score - Recap
Penn 66 Lehigh 73 (Preseason NIT) Box Score - Recap
Cornell 53 Arizona State 64 (Las Vegas Invitational) [PAC-12 Sports Network] Box Score - Recap

Wednesday, November 21
Bryant 68 Brown 61 Box Score - Recap
Princeton 53 Syracuse 73 [TIME WARNER] Box Score - Recap
Yale 52 Vermont 65  Box Score - Recap

Friday, November 23
Cornell 89 Presbyterian 55 (Las Vegas Invitational at Las Vegas) Box Score - Recap
Columbia 75 Wayland Baptist 63 (SF Hilltop Classic) Box Score - Recap

Saturday, November 24
Saint Francis (N.Y.) 76 Brown72 (OT) Box Score - Recap
IPFW 70 Dartmouth 66 Box Score - Recap
Princeton 72 Lafayette53 Box Score - Recap
Army 83 Yale 86 (2OT)  Box Score - Recap
Cornell 84 Longwood 78 (Las Vegas Invitational at Las Vegas) Box Score - Recap
Columbia 59 San Francisco 79 (SF Hilltop Classic) Box Score - Recap

Tuesday, November 27
Dartmouth 49 Bucknell 62 Box Score - Recap
Vermont 85 Harvard 78 [NBCSN] Box Score - Recap

Wednesday, November 28
Columbia 61 LIU Brooklyn 70 Box Score - Recap
Stony Brook 53 Cornell 76 Box Score - Recap
Binghamton 54 Penn 65 Box Score - Recap
Princeton 42 Wagner 48 (OT) Box Score - Recap

Thursday, November 29
Sacred Heart 56 Brown 69 Box Score - Recap
Hartford 60 Yale 51 Box Score - Recap

Saturday, December 1
Brown 50 New Hampshire 63 [WBIN/FCS] Box Score - Recap
Fordham 64 Harvard 73 Box Score - Recap
Dartmouth 61 Longwood 53 Box Score - Recap
Penn 47 Penn State 58 [ESPN3] Box Score - Recap
Colgate 63 Cornell 70 Box Score - Recap
Bucknell 65 Columbia 57 Box Score - Recap
Princeton 50 Kent State 62 Box Score - Recap

Tuesday, December 4
Dartmouth 49 Elon 71 Box Score - Recap
Harvard 79 Boston College 63 [ESPN3] Box Score - Recap

Wednesday, December 5
Yale 64 Bryant 62 Box Score - Recap

Friday, December 7
Harvard 49 Connecticut 57 [SNY] Box Score - Recap

Saturday, December 8
Yale 56 New Hampshire 64  Box Score - Recap
Drexel 64 Princeton 57 Box Score - Recap
Dartmouth 56 Holy Cross 67 Box Score - Recap
Brown 57 Notre Dame 84 [ESPN3] Box Score - Recap
Villanova 68 Penn 55 [NBCSN] Box Score - Recap

Sunday, December 9
Columbia 54 American 42 Box Score - Recap

Tuesday, December 11
Boston University 64 Harvard 65 Box Score - Recap

Wednesday, December 12
Dartmouth 50 Vermont 52 Box Score - Recap

Saturday, December 15
Princeton 60 Fordham 63 (Brooklyn Hoops Winter Festival) [YES] Box Score - Recap
Dartmouth 42 Arizona State 61 Box Score - Recap

Monday, December 17
Cornell 55 Vanderbilt 66 [ESPNU] Box Score - Recap

Tuesday, December 18
Albertus Magnus 63 Yale 112 Box Score - Recap

Wednesday, December 19
Cornell 47 Duke 88 [ESPNU] Box Score - Recap

Thursday, December 20
Rider 45 Princeton 62 Box Score - Recap

Friday, December 21
Penn 60 Delaware 83  Box Score - Recap

Saturday, December 22
Cornell 57 Boston University70 Box Score - Recap
Dartmouth 66 Bryant 79  Box Score - Recap
Holy Cross 65 Harvard 72  Box Score - Recap
Elon 70 Columbia 79 Box Score - Recap
Bucknell 67 Princeton 79 Box Score - Recap

Sunday, December 23
Brown 42 Northwestern 63 [] Box Score - Recap

Friday, December 28
Providence 68 Brown 69 [NBCSN] Box Score - Recap
Cornell 79 Saint Francis (Pa.) 67  Box Score - Recap
Yale 75 Nevada 85 Box Score - Recap

Saturday, December 29
Manhattan 58 Columbia 69 Box Score - Recap
Penn 63 Wagner 68  Box Score - Recap
Harvard 67 California 62 [PAC-12] Box Score - Recap

Sunday, December 30
Cornell 79 Binghamton 77 [TIME WARNER SPORTS] Box Score - Recap
Yale 62 Saint Mary’s (Calif.) 78 Box Score - Recap
Princeton 58 Akron 62 Box Score - Recap

Monday, December 31
Dartmouth 58 Boston College 79 [ESPN3] Box Score - Recap
Brown 50 Albany 57 Box Score - Recap
Harvard 69 Saint Mary’s (Calif.) 70 [ESPN2] Box Score - Recap

Tuesday, January 1
Yale 70 Iowa State 80 Box Score - Recap

Wednesday, January 2
Colgate 59 Columbia 66 Box Score - Recap
Bucknell 72 Cornell 56 Box Score - Recap
Penn 57 Butler 70 Box Score - Recap

Friday, January 4
Brown 47 Rhode Island 59 [OSN] Box Score - Recap
Yale 61 Holy Cross 54 Box Score - Recap

Saturday, January 5
Princeton 74 Elon 64 Box Score - Recap
Penn 57 La Salle 74 Box Score - Recap
Columbia 64 Army 52 Box Score - Recap
Rice 62 Harvard 92 Box Score - Recap
Colgate 78 Dartmouth 62 Box Score - Recap

Sunday, January 6
Cornell 68 American 60 Box Score - Recap
Florida 79 Yale 58 [NBCSN] Box Score - Recap

Tuesday, January 8
Niagara 74 Brown 75 Box Score - Recap
Columbia 69 Holy Cross 78 Box Score - Recap
Army 58 Dartmouth 75 Box Score - Recap
Lafayette 85 Penn 83 Box Score - Recap

Saturday, January 12
Daniel Webster 34 Brown 71 Box Score - Recap
College at Old Westbury 84 Cornell 103  Box Score - Recap
Oberlin 39 Yale 104 Box Score - Recap
*Harvard 75 Dartmouth 65 Box Score - Recap
*Penn 53 Princeton 65 [NBCSN] Box Score - Recap

Thursday, January 17
Colby-Sawyer 42 Dartmouth 80 Box Score
Penn 54 NJIT 53 Box Score - Recap

Saturday, January 19
Harvard 50 Memphis 60 [FSN] Box Score - Recap
*Columbia 58 Cornell 67 NBCSN] Box Score - Recap
Saint Joseph’s 79 Penn 59 [ESPNU] Box Score - Recap
*Yale 51 Brown 65 Box Score - Recap

Wednesday, January 23
Penn 69 Temple 76 Box Score - Recap

Saturday, January 26
*Dartmouth 77  Harvard 82 OT [NBCSN] Box Score - Recap
*Brown 64 Yale 76 OT Box Score - Recap
*Cornell 66 Columbia 63 Box Score - Recap

Sunday, January 27
The College of New Jersey 33 Princeton 71 Box Score - Recap

Friday, February 1
*Brown 62 Dartmouth 50 Box Score - Recap
*Columbia 58 Penn 62  Box Score - Recap
*Cornell 59 Princeton 76 Box Score - Recap
*Yale 64 Harvard 67 Box Score - Recap

 Saturday, February 2
*Columbia 66 Princeton 72 [NBCSN] Box Score - Recap
*Brown 82 Harvard 89 2OT Box Score - Recap
*Cornell 71 Penn 69 Box Score - Recap
*Yale 62 Dartmouth 71 Box Score - Recap

Friday, February 8
*Brown 46 Princeton 63 Box Score - Recap
*Dartmouth 60 Columbia 57 Box Score - Recap
*Harvard 67 Cornell 65  Box Score - Recap
*Yale 68 Penn 59  Box Score - Recap

Saturday, February 9
*Yale 69 Princeton 65 Box Score - Recap
*Brown 48 Penn 71 Box Score - Recap

Sunday, February 10
*Harvard 63 Columbia 78 Box Score - Recap
*Dartmouth 56 Cornell 79 Box Score - Recap

Friday, February 15
*Columbia 55 Brown 58 [myRITV] Box Score - Recap
*Cornell 68 Yale 61 Box Score - Recap
*Princeton 73 Dartmouth 55 Box Score - Recap
*Penn 54 Harvard 73  Box Score - Recap

Saturday, February 16
*Cornell 69 Brown 66 Box Score - Recap
*Columbia 56 Yale 75 Box Score - Recap
*Penn 67 Dartmouth 57 Box Score - Recap
*Princeton 57 Harvard 69 [NBCSN] Box Score - Recap

Friday, February 22
*Harvard 65 Brown 47 [myRITV] Box Score - Recap
*Princeton 65 Columbia 40 Box Score - Recap
*Penn 79 Cornell 71 Box Score - Recap
*Dartmouth 67 Yale 78 Box Score - Recap

Saturday, February 23
*Dartmouth 50 Brown 59 Box Score - Recap
*Penn 41 Columbia 58 Box Score - Recap
*Princeton 72 Cornell 53 Box Score - Recap
*Harvard 72 Yale 66 [CBSSN] Box Score - Recap

Friday, March 1
*Brown 84 Cornell 65 Box Score - Recap
*Dartmouth 69 Penn 64 Box Score - Recap
*Harvard 53 Princeton 58 [ESPNU] Box Score - Recap
*Yale 46 Columbia 59 Box Score - Recap

Saturday, March 2
*Dartmouth 63 Princeton 68 Box Score - Recap
*Harvard 72 Penn 75 [NBCSN] Box Score - Recap
*Brown 61 Columbia 58 Box Score - Recap
*Yale 79 Cornell 70  Box Score - Recap
  • Below is an updated list of players committed to Ivy League schools in the class of 2013 (unless otherwise noted):
Lealand King (Brentwood School) Los Angeles, CA, 6-6, F, Brown
J.R. Hobbie (Manasquan HS) Manasquan, NJ, 6-4, G, Brown
Tavon Blackmon (Gonzaga) Washington, DC, 5-11, G, Brown
Matt Madigan (Mt. Tabor HS) Winston-Salem, NC, 6-4, G, Brown
Chris McComber (John McCrae School) Ottawa, ON, 6-7, F, Columbia
Kendall Jackson (Suffield Academy) Suffield, MA, 5-9, G, Columbia
Jeff Coby (Choate Rosemary Hall) Choate, CT, 6-6, F, Columbia
Connor Voss (St. Cloud Cathederal HS) St. Cloud, MN, 6-11, C, Columbia
Robert Hatter (Westside HS) Houston, TX, 6-1, G, Cornell
Ikemefuna Ngwudo (Milton Academy) Milton, MA, 6-5, F, Dartmouth 
Eli Harrison (Sisters HS) Sisters, OR, 6-6, F, Dartmouth 
Mike Flemming (N'field Mt Hermon, MA) Lincolnshire, IL, 6-1, G, Dartmouth 
Matt Fraschila (Highland Park HS) Highland Park, TX, 5-10 G, Harvard 
Hunter Meyers (Douglas HS) Minden, NV, 6-6, F, Harvard 
Zena Edosomwan (Northfield Mt Hermon, MA) Hollywood, CA, 6-9, F, Harvard 
Matt Howard (A.J. Flora HS), Columbia, S.C., 6-4, G, Penn 
Dylan Jones (Village HS) Houston, TX, 6-8, F, Penn 
Dave Winfield (Harvard Westlake HS) Hollywood, CA, 6-8, F, Penn 
Tony Bagtas (Westlake HS) Atlanta, GA, 5-11, G, Penn
Khyan Rayner (Jesuit HS) Portland, OR, 5-9, G, Princeton
Henry Caruso (Serra HS) San Mateo, CA, 6-4, G, Princeton 
Hashim Moore (Hun School, NJ) Ft. Lauderdale, FL, 6-5, F, Princeton 
Spencer Weisz (Seton Hall Prep) Florham Park, NJ, 6-4, G, Princeton 
Steven Cook (New Trier HS) Winnetka, IL, 6-5, G, Princeton
Pete Miller (Northfield Mount Hermon, MA) Northfield, MA, 6-10, C, Princeton 
Amir Bell (East Brunswick HS) E.Brunswick, NJ, 6-4, G, Princeton (2014) 
Sam Downy (Lake Forest HS) Lake Forest, IL, 6-9, C, Yale 
Anthony Dallier (Northfield Mount Hermon, MA) Wexford, PA, 6-6, F, Yale 
JT Flowers (Lincoln HS) Portland, OR, 6-5, F, Yale

  • Below, a look at the Cornell Coaching Plantations, the coaches in the NCAA with ties to Cornell University.
    Jeff Jackson (Cornell Class of '84)-Head Coach of Furman University (Division I).
    Jon Jaques (Cornell Class of '10)-Assistant coach at Columbia University. Played for Cornell under Steve Donahue.

    Kevin App (Cornell Class of '07)
    -Assistant coach at Army. Played for Cornell under Steve Donahue.

    Yanni Hufnagel (Cornell Class of '06)-Assistant coach at Harvard. Served as student-manager at Cornell under Steve Donahue.

    Steve Donahue-Head coach of Boston College. Served as head coach at Cornell between 2000-2010.

    Zach Spiker-Head coach of Army. He served as an assistant coach at Cornell under Steve Donahue from 2004-2009.

    Joe Burke-Head coach of Skidmore College (Division III). He was an assistant coach at Cornell under Steve Donahue between 2001-2004.

    Izzi Metz-Former Head coach Hobart College (Division III). He served as a Cornell assistant coach for five seasons between 2001-2006 under Steve Donahue and is currently an assistant coach and head of basketball operations at Boston College under Donahue.

    Nat Graham-Associate Head Coach (assistant) at Boston College under Steve Donahue. Served as an assistant coach under Donahue at Cornell from 2005-2010.

    Woody Kampmann-Assistant coach at Boston College under Steve Donahue. Served as an assistant coach under Donahue at Cornell from 2007-2010.

    Ryan Woerner-Former student intern coach under Steve Donahue during the 2009-2010 season and assistant coach for Cornell's women's team during 2010-2011. Currently director of basketball operations at St. Peter's.

    Steve Robinson-Assistant coach at North Carolina under Roy Williams. He was an assistant coach for Mike Dement at Cornell for two seasons, including on the 1988 Ivy League Championship team.

    Paul Fortier-Assistant coach at Washington under Lorenzo Romar. He served as an assistant coach at Cornell during 2003-2005 under Steve Donahue.

    Desmond Oliver-Assistant coach at Charlotte. He was an assistant coach at Cornell between 1998-2000 under Scott Thompson.

    Ricky Yahn-Assistant coach at Longwood. He was an assistant coach at Cornell during 2010-2011 under Bill Courtney.

  • Throughout the year we provide periodic updates on Cornell's alumni playing professionally. Below, some updates:
-Jeff Aubry ('99) (Halcones Rojos, LNBP Mexico premier league/Arecibo Capitanes, BSN Puerto Rico premier league)-As of March 3, Aubry, who had been injured for most of the season, averaged 6.0 points and 5.0 rebounds per game prior to the injury for Halcones of the LNBP in Mexico, the country's premier league. Halcones finished the season 32-8 and in 2nd place out of 16 teams in the league. Halcones was eliminated in the semifinals of the playoffs.  A 6'11" center, Aubry splits his time in both the Mexican and Puerto Rican professional leagues. A well traveled pro player, Aubry spent several seasons in the NBA D League in the early part of his career with the Fayetteville Patriots and   Florida Flame and earned honorable mention all NBA D League in 2002. During his more than a decade of pro experience, Aubry has also played professionally in  the ABA (Miami Tropics) and abroad  in Puerto Rico (Arecibo, Leones de Ponce, and Santurce, BSN Puerto Rico), Spain (Tarragona, LEB Gold Spain 2nd Division), Mexico (Halcones Rojos and Chihuahua Dorados, LNBP Mexico premier league), Poland (Slask Wroclaw, PLK Poland premier league), Argentina (Libertad Sunchales, Liga A Argentina), Uruguay (Hebraica, LUB Uruguay )and Peru (Alas Peruanas, Peru).
-Alex Tyler ('10) (Rockville Victors, Atlantic Coast Professional Basketball League)-Tyler is in his rookie season with the Victors.
-Louis Dale ('10) (KAOD Dramas, Greece A1 premier league)-As of March 3, Dale is averaging 7.8 points, 2.8 rebounds and 2.2 assists per game.  KAOD is 5-13 and in 12th place out of 14 teams in the A1.  Dale spent his  first two professional seasons both in Germany's BBK Bundesliga, the country's premier league with Goettingen.
-Jeff Foote ('10) (Zalgiris, Lithuania LKL premier league/EuroLeague/VTB Russian League)-As of March 3 Foote is averaging 9.1  points and 6.0 rebounds per game for Zalgiris in the Lithuanian premier league, the LKL.  Zalgiris is 8-0 and in 4th place out of 12 teams in the LKL.  Foote was named to the LKL's All Star team for the 2012-2013 season.  Zalgiris also finished 8-2 in the 6-team Group C in the opening round of the EuroLeague.  In EuroLeague action, Foote is averaging 5.7 points and 2.8 rebounds per game.  Zalgiris is now in the Top Sixteen's Group E with a 4-5 record.  In a third league of competition, the Eastern European VTB League, Zalgiris is 14-1 and in 1st place out of 10 teams in Group B.  Zalgiris is currently ranked #5 in Europe.  Prior to the start of the 2012-2013 season, Foote played with the Brooklyn Nets in the NBA Summer League and participated in the team's free agent mini-camp.  During 2011-2012, Foote averaged 15.1 points and 8.9 rebounds per game in the NBA D-League for the Springfield Armor (the Brooklyn Nets' affiliate) after being named a starter at the D-League's All-Star Game during FebruaryFoote finished the D-League season ranked 4th in double-doubles and also 4th in rebounds. Foote averaged 1.0 points and 1.5 rebounds per game in 4 games for the NBA's New Orleans Hornets during a 10-day contract between March 9 and March 19. Foote was ranked by the D-League as its #6 overall NBA prospect.  During April 2012 he was profiled in a video on  He participated in the Portland Trailblazers' 2011-2012 preseason training camp and played the 2011-2012 preseason with with Zastal of       the PLK Poland premier league and the full 2010-2011 season in Spain (Melilla, LEB Gold Spain 2nd division) while on loan from Euro League powerhouse Maccabi Tel Aviv of Israel's premier league.
  • Below is a directory listing of some Twitter feeds associated with the Cornell basketball program.
-Josh Wexler ('88)
-Rich Medina ('92)
-Bo Buttenback ('98)
-Cody Toppert ('05)
-Steve Cobb ('05)
-Ryan Rourke ('06)
-Andrew Naeve ('07)
-Jason Canady ('08)
-Khaliq Gant ('09)
-Conor Mullen ('09)
-Brian Kreefer ('09)
-Ryan Wittman ('10)
-Pete Reynolds ('10)
-Jon Jaques ('10)
-Louis Dale ('10)
-Alex Tyler ('10)
-Geoff Reeves ('10)
-Jeff Foote ('10)
-Andre Wilkins ('10) (inactive)
-Aaron Osgood ('11)
-Adam Wire ('11)
-Max Groebe ('12)
-Chris Wroblewski ('12)
-Andrew Ferry ('12)
-The Cornell Rebounders Club
-Jonathan Gray ()
-Miles Asafo Adjei ()
-Peter McMillan ()
-Errick Peck ()
-Josh Figini ()
-Galal Cancer ()
-Ned Tomic ()
-Dominick Scelfo ()
-Jake Mathews ()
-Dwight Tarwater ()
-Manny Sahota ()
-Dave LaMore ()
-Shonn Miller ()
-Devin Cherry ()
-Nolan Cressler ()
-Braxston Bunce ()
-Holt Harmon ()
-Robert Mischler ()
-David Onuorah (committed recruit)
-Robert Hatter (committed recruit)
-Jeremy Hartigan, Cornell SID
-Assistant Coach Mike Blaine ()
-Assistant Coach Marlon Sears ()
-Assistant Coach Arlen Galloway ()
-Brian Delaney, ESPN Radio Ithaca ()
-Barry Leonard, Cornell Redcast/Play-By-Play Annnouncer
-Ed Boulat, Ithaca Journal
-Cornell Daily Sun Sports ()
-Slope Sports ()
-WVBR Sports
-Former assistant coach, Jay Larranaga
-Former assistant coach, Ricky Yahn ()
-Former head coach, Steve Donahue ()
-Former intern assistant Ryan Woerner ()
-Former assistant coach, Zach Spiker ()
-Former assistant coach, Nat Graham ()
-Former assistant coach, Woody Kampmann ()
-Former assistant coach, Izzi Metz ()
-Former assistant coach, Paul Fortier ()

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Anonymous said...

What's the injury report? Are we going to have anybody back for Dartmouth and Harvard? I'd hate to have us mail it in for a season finale on national television.

Anonymous said...

State of the Program, appears that the program is worse now than three years ago. The bottom half of the bottom half is where we sit at present. The only team that isn't as good as BigRed is Dartmonth.

Does anybody truly believe this will change significantly under current leadership? This team has talent to compete with most if not all of the Conference but is lacking in direction. Head coaching change is needed so the talent that exist is not wasted by an Assistant Coach who pretends to be a Head Coach! Good recruiters do not always make good coaches.

If we lose to Dartmonth and Harvard that will be six losses in a row to end a season of promise and hope with disgusting results and last place or next to last finish! Somehow that should be considered the straw that breaks the camels back!

Anonymous said...

Well said ^

Dan Wendt said...

State of the program? Do you know what is going on with Gray? (I have no idea, but how can we evaluate the program without any information?) You don't mention the injury to Shonn Miller? You don't mention other injuries? What about the effect of Peck's injury on his career trajectory during BC's tenure? If you are going to claim to evaluate the program, you need to give an honest evaluation of things that are within the control of the coach, and those that aren't. And don't take for granted the fact that players are sticking with the program for four years, as CBB points out. Don't freak out because the last two weekends did not break our way, or if you are going to freak out, don't do it anonymously. And then don't post again to pat yourself on the back, pretending to be someone else who agrees with you. (I'm kidding.)

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

Good comment from a former player.

Anonymous said...

This particular poster (easily identifiable by the texting-type writing) has demonstrated through various postings that s/he has no clue about college basketball (or basic basketball). There are reasonable critiques one can make about Coach Courtney, as with any coach living under a microscope) but this is silly. Let's give him time.

Anonymous said...

I'm really worried that this past weekend's injuries will serve as an excuse for Courtney apologists and make everyone forget that the year as a whole has been horrible and that the last three years have been utterly horrible.

Anonymous said...

From Anon 10:09am,

All that you discuss has bearing but not the most important factors that should be in consideration. Injuries are part of the game, that why you develope other players while playing your core unit. Grays situation is not basketball related as reported by CBB. Although I do not know specifically what his issue is can only guess it is school related. Peck injury problems in the past has little bearing on this season where he has been a beast at times and a quality wingman at other times this year. His injury may be a blessing in disguise for him allowing him to save a year of eligibility for the future if he so chooses. Although his blessing might not have been what was best for the program you must be prepared. Next man up! This part of developing players to be ready to step in is whats in the Coaches control! The basis of Coachiing is the ability in making adjustments which work on a consistent basis. This was profoundly lacking in my observation of the 29 games so far this year.

Players are caught between a rock and a hard place after accepting the invite to attend Cornell and play intercollegiate sports due to NCAA rules. Just because players are sticking with the Program does have the meaning that's implied. Many factors causes the Kids to stay, my question would be is this Coach one of them, somehow I doubt it. I've played Basketball on every level except professionally and a Coach who rants and raves on the sidelines who appears to hand out justice unevenly during games for one mistake or another isnt endearing to his to player!

As far as freaking out, I'm not, just making an obvious observation. We are 5-9 and the possibility of going 5-11 is still a possibility. Those are the facts, as Sgt Friday use to say "Just the Facts"!

Anonymous said...

Agreed, in that I too am worried that late season injuries will be used as an excuse for this season as a whole.

Too inconsistent on the whole.
Too much talent substituted wildly on the whole.
Too many 2nd halves of games w/o a chance.

This is a team that should win 9+ Ivy games. The fact that we are 4-1 on the ROAD in Ivy games should most definitely prove this. Coming to Ithaca used to be hard. Now it's a scenic ride and a W.

Anonymous said...

Courtney hasn't exactly been successful even when players are healthy.

My biggest fear is that Courtney will set standards so low that any one decent weekend means his job is saved. No one even dreams of contending anymore, and he is praised if he merely beats anyone other than Dartmouth, and we are chided for being too hard on him anytime he manages to beat anyone at all.

I find it borderline hilarious. The people who are annoyed at the program's decline over Courtney's career are considered the bad guys while the people who believe that the program is meant to be mediocre somehow consider themselves "real" fans. These people call Donahue overrated, say the class of 2010 was a fluke, insist that Cornell is meant to be a bottom dweller and that this is a "return to normalcy", and argue that Cornell players will never be anything better than mediocre. And they call themselves the real fans and claim others know nothing about the sport of basketball. Meanwhile, CBB's stance is "spin everything to make it seem like Courtney is actually wildly succesfull! Hype Western Michigan like they're Duke!". And of course, anyone who doesn't join in the farce is accused of being a fake fan.

You are not the real fans. The people who believe in the program and want it to be better are the real fans. I really hope some of our basketball alums from 2010 who know that they were not flukes are in regular communication with Andy Noel about their real thoughts.

Dan Wendt said...

Next man up is a nice slogan, but it is not the reality for college basketball. It may work for football (depending on the injury), but if a basketball team loses two All-Ivy caliber players, you can't expect the bench to contain two more All-Ivy caliber players (although Cressler has put up huge numbers).

I will grant you the program is worse than 3 years ago, but we were loaded with all-ivy seniors and finished the season 13-1 and made a run to the sweet 16. But I am guessing you mean two seasons ago, in which our overall record was worse than it is now. So based on records, we are better now, although the Ivy record may end up slightly worse (and we played down a few guys the last four games). Let's not forget that this team knocked off Western Michigan, a team that is leading the MAC Western division right now. An Ivy team knocks off one of the best MAC teams, and that is a sign of a program that is in decline?

You can have your opinion about coaching styles and developing players and your other points. But don't say that they are more than your opinions. That's your style. You would have a different style coaching, and you would prefer a different style. But your "facts" on the status of the program don't seem to match up, at least as I have looked at them today.

And about the players being stuck in a hard place, I call bunk. As far as I know, an Ivy player can call another program in a heart beat. Maybe the player would have to go a year without a scholarship, but that is par for the course in the Ivy. You don't have to be released from the program like you do if you are on a scholarship (at least when I was in Ithaca). A redshirt year is not much of a barrier, especially if you can land a scholarship. And it is very common for players to stay in Ithaca (or any Ivy town) but not play anymore (or so I'm told). Kids can have a difficult time. College basketball is very difficult, and many players can be miserable during the slog. But as far as I can tell, the players are supporting BC and sticking with him, depsite your comments on unfairly distributing criticism etc.

This year was not horrible. We weren't swept by Columbia (the predicate for a horrible season). We won at the Palestra. We swept the Yale-Brown weekend on the road. Until Gray and then Miller were out, we still had a pulse for the Ivy title. There have been games (pre- and post injuries) that have been horrible, but the team had shown a lot of fight in bouning back. I know horrible seasons. This was not one. And it can get better, especially with some wins this weekend.

You talk about 29 games. Did you think the program was in such a horrible state after we beat Western and nearly knocked off the Bonnies? Or what about the win over Colgate (an important rivalry game)? What after we beat Penn in Philly? Or after we nearly came back to beat Harvard in Ithaca (did the staff make any adjustments at half time)? What about after going on the road and winning two very tough games against Yale and Brown? Or are your comments based on the results of the games following Gray's absence and now Miller's absence (plus the other injuries)?

Just be honest and don't claim you are sticking to the facts. And by the way, I can find no evidence whatsoever that "Anon 10:09am" ever wore a college basketball uniform. (Again, I'm kidding. I am now guessing you have some affiliation to the school/program and can't give your actual name with these comments. If true, that begs the question, why are you venting on CBB?)

Anonymous said...

Does anyone really think that the guys on the floor last weekend were capable of winning the league? Seriously?

Yes, this has been a disappointing season and fans are frustrated. But we're not as good as Princeton and Harvard, and that's just the simple truth. To say that those willing to give Coach C more time to develop his program are ok with mediocrity is utter nonsense.

Anonymous said...

Dartmouth also won on the road at Penn and Columbia. We almost beat Harvard? Columbia and Penn actually did. Heck Brown and Dartmouth took them to OT which is more than we can say. We weren't swept by Columbia? Well Brown swept them. Yale swept that P/P road trip, and Dartmouth put up a better showing at Princeton that we did.

This is what I mean. Standards are so low right now that the team is praised for ordinary accomplishments and rigorously defended for merely being NOT a complete disaster. We pick out Western Michigan and ignore what the rest of our non-conf was: narrow wins over cupcakes, double digit losses to decent mids and struggling BCS schools, and utter, at times historical, humiliations at the hands of good BCS schools. But we are told that this is actually quite decent; we are told that we aren't coaches and we didn't suit up so what do we know?

The only reason our overall record this year is better than our record two years ago is that we loaded up on cupcakes like never before, playing four to five teams ranked 300+ in the country and a couple in the bottom 10 ... and barely beating them. Our KenPom ratings and measures like that have dropped every year under Bill Courtney. These scores were lower than the last two last years even before the recent injuries drove them even lower. The team is getting worse every year under Courtney. Bill Courtney is an ineffective coach. Might he change? Dunno, maybe, Donahue did, many mediocre coaches stay mediocre though.

This weekend, injuries definitely hit the tipping point, but what explains the rest of the year? Of Courtney's career?

If you are a good coach let your record speak for itself without requiring a whole bunch of asterisks season after season.

Anonymous said...

I think those guys on the floor last weekend are capable of winning the league, just not under this coach.

Many have suggested that Bill Courtney was a good coach who was simply missing key pieces down low and at point, and that nothing more could have been expected of him in light of these obstacles. Others have argued that we vastly overestimated the potential talent of his roster and that his players could never be better than low mid major Division I.

Yup, Brown and Penn could turn mere freshmen into effective bigs but poor Bill was saddled with five or six terrible bigs. Same with guards: poor Bill had five or six terrible guards and it wasn't his fault.

I just find it far more likely that we have a bad coach who failed to develop players than it is that poor Bill just landed a dozen useless players. Either Courtney is a bad coach or he had the rotten luck of landing one of the worst rosters we've had in over a decade. Which is more likely?

Anonymous said...

Courtney is a bad coach. His substitution patterns and game rotations are an absolute mess. Some players play double digit minutes one game, and almost no minutes the next game. Players get subbed out after every little mistake. Everybody plays looking over their shoulder.

Anonymous said...

The rampant negativity on this board is getting a bit overwhelming. Let's point out some positives:

- Eitan improved a heck of a lot.
- So did Johnny Gray, becoming an All-Ivy player.
- Nolan has had a solid freshman year.
- Shonn is all Ivy and was Ivy ROY. He was an absolute force on defense this year.
- Galal has improved, as has Scelfo.

This all happened under Bill's watch.

Aside from that, a few critiques:

* It's undeniable that a number of our wins resulted from beating cupcakes this year, and that we struggled against a few of them. We have no truly impressive signature wins. That needs to change next year.

* I'm disappointed that we don't have a lot of help coming in at the 1-3 next year. We've heard about Bill's recruiting prowess, but we have no game ready guards or threes coming in despite these being problems areas, whether due to graduation or lack of depth. It's possible that could change, but it's now March and that seems unlikely.

Harvard will be absolutely loaded next year, and Penn, Princeton, Brown, and Yale should all be solid to good.

This program has a ways to go, but blaming everything on Bill Courtney is misguided.

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

We just want to clarify for the record here that based on the visible IP Addresses as provided by our Site Meter account, there are really only 1-2 negative people on this site who continuously comment in this forum.

These few and extremely limited "negative minded" posters are very committed to their position and continuously post here giving the appearance of many upset fans.

These 1-2 individuals are free to post here, so long as their posts do not become abusive. (Having a negative opinion of the program or the coach is not an abuse in itself).

That all said, we just want to clarify that there is not an overwhelming tone of negativity among a mass of fans. Again, it is merely 1-2 passionate yet extremely negative fans that continuously rant.

jimbohoops said...

I want a change at the top. can we not find a quality head coach from among the top academic division 3 programs with good histories?? the amhersts,williams u of Rochester types. we should not have to compromise with 1st time head coaches!!

Anonymous said...

I just think next time we should also just pay more attention to a candidate's actual experience and accomplishments in addition to his attitude. Many felt Courtney had the weakest resume of all three coaching finalists, but he is so earnest and convincing when he speaks that I, for one, was sold after a couple of interviews.

In a way, we kind of got what we deserved with Courtney. He didn't have much of a record, had been to like three Virginia schools in the two previous years -- I believe he even spent less than a season in one place -- and his biggest selling point was that he recruited the Mason players who went to the final four ... after he left.

We can't just fall for a coach who says the right things next time.