Thursday, March 21, 2013

News and Notes: Thursday Edition

Below, news and notes for Thursday...

  • Cornell is represented in the NCAA Tournament by former Cornell assistant coach, Steve Robinson, currently an assistant with North Carolina.  Robinson was a member of Cornell's 1988 Ivy League Championship team.
  • The Badger Herald writes of Wisconsin, "...Then there was the loss in 2010 to Cornell, where Wisconsin once again saw its season end due to poor defense. Sure, the Big Red were feeling it, but plenty had to do with the fact the Badgers’ defense was non-existent, allowing their opponent to shoot 61 percent from the floor."
  • Opposing Views writes that it takes a mid major team three years to finally succeed in the NCAAs:
The “Rule of Three” has been seen on five separate occasions in the last nine seasons. The first example was Manhattan in 2004, a 12 seed led by Luis Flores that beat 5 seed Florida in the first round in its third straight year in the tournament. Vermont was the next example in 2005, as they used a miraculous 30-foot jump shot to secure an upset win over Syracuse. In 2007, Winthrop became the next example of the “Rule of Three” by beating Notre Dame. In 2008, Davidson became the first team affected by the rule to win more than its first round game. Led by Stephen Curry, Davidson beat Gonzaga, Georgetown, and Wisconsin to advance all the way to the Elite Eight as a 10 seed. Cornell also won multiple games, advancing to the Sweet 16 as a 12 seed in 2010. In all of these cases, the team was in their third consecutive year in the NCAA Tournament without a win in their first two tries, and always following a conference tournament title.
Nolan Cressler makes his mark in first season at Cornell 
Nolan Cressler didn't waste any time becoming a big factor on the Cornell University men's basketball team.
The Plum graduate and Big Red freshman came off the bench in his Cornell debut in November and scored a team-best 20 points — including six 3-pointers — to lead his team to a season-opening victory over Western Michigan.
He was a two-time Ivy League Rookie of the Week during the 2012-13 campaign, and he ranked fourth on the team in scoring (9.3 points per game), third in rebounding (3.7 per game) and first in 3-pointers made (54) and 3-point percentage (.403).
Cressler played in all 31 games and finished with 12 starts. He shot 42.7 percent from the floor and averaged 21.1 minutes per contest.
He averaged 11.1 points and 4.4 rebounds in Ivy League games.
Cressler scored in double figures 14 times, including five of Cornell's final six games.
He averaged 15 points over the final six games of the season, and he tallied a career-best 22 points in games against Penn and Brown.
Cressler scored 14 points and added seven rebounds at Dartmouth, and he added 12 points and nine rebounds at Ivy League champ and NCAA Tournament qualifier Harvard.
Cornell started 5-3 in Ivy League play, but the Big Red suffered losses in their final six conference games to end up 5-9 in the league and 13-18 overall.


Anonymous said...

What good is it to have a coach who is supposedly good at recruiting if he cannot implement tactics or a system to bring out the best in players once they get to campus? As evidenced by Cancer and Peck leaving, it's no good at all.

Recruiting isn't everything. Having a mind for tactics and game planning are crucial to any team's success and this coach has shown that he simply does not have a knack for it.

Anonymous said...

Who got a lot of credit for Coach D's success midway through his Cornell tenure? Zach Spiker who came from WV and learned that system that helped Whitman Dale and Foote shine. We need to bring in coaches like that who can implement a system better than "isolation" to really create a long lasting Cornell brand of basketball.

Anonymous said...

Dude, just stop. If you're going to bash someone, at least get the facts straight: Peck's leaving had nothing to do with Courtney. You are uninformed and have no credibility. That's even more grating when you're criticizing someone.

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

Errick Peck had the Hotel School run a financial aid package for him for the 2013-2014 school year. He hoped to stay.

At the end of the day, he had the option of either (1) EARNING his Cornell undergrad degree then getting a Master's Degree for FREE as a 5th year elsewhere or (2) Stay at Cornell for a 5th year, pay for it, and just get a B.S. degree.

Anonymous said...

You both missed my main point. It's about getting a coach who understands tactics and a system vs someone who can charm in an interview setting and is pretty good at recruiting. A system based on isolation is terrible and will never get it done in this league.

Harry '59 said...

Whoever made the decision on Errick Peck made a huge mistake. One would think that the school should have tried every way possible to keep a player of his capability on the team.

The offer made to him was an offer he could clearly refuse.
I wouldn't be surprised if he wound up at BCor some sililar program and had an outstanding career.

Will he receive a BS this year? If not how many credits does he need to get one?

Anonymous said...

Courtney's offense is about as effective as Avery Johnson's and we saw what happened to the Nets earlier this year.

br2 said...

Ok, but to play devil's advocate, if BC was an amazing coach and Peck liked him a lot, wouldn't it also be hard to leave? Plenty of students at Cornell pay their own way w/o financial aid. If you want to make something happen, it's possible. Perhaps BC sucking as a coach, not implementing an offensive scheme, and failing to really develop talent, as well as incurring high numbers of injuries in players played a factor in Peck's decision too.

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

Errick will get his Bacherlor's of Science in Hotel Admin this May.

If he were to stay at Cornell, he would have to "push out" his graduation date and just add a minor or another major. He would also have to pay some tuition.

Fact is, Errick has already paid 4 years of Cornell education.

Even if the 5th year cost him just say, $7,500, why would he do it? Why would he pay $7,500 to delay his graduation?

He can walk, take his Ivy degree with him, play somewhere else for FREE and earn a Master's degree.

The only way it makes sense to stay is if you get an amazing financial aid award for the 5th year or your family is an excellent position to afford the 5th year (or if you really need the 5th year to accomplish something important in academics).

For Errick, staying put did not make sense. It did for Jason Hartford. It did for Jeff Foote. It did for Mark Coury. It did for Max Groebe. It did not for Errick Peck.

br2 said...

You threw out an actual number, $7500, so let's go there.

Peck is a smart guy, a senior at Cornell, and very likable, it's possible to get a decent internship which will cover most of this amount.

So, if he believed in the team's chances next season, and liked playing for Courtney, then he would do it. $7,500 is not a prohibitive amount.

I'm going to guess he would owe much more to Cornell next season, and that is why the Masters/Free option makes a ton of sense.

I'll be rooting for him and his team next year wherever he goes.

With that said, I have a hard time believing that some crappy coaching and environment by BC isn't partially or wholly to blame.

Anonymous said...

It also did not for Adam Gore.

The Cornell Basketball Blog said...

Let's make it $15,000 (less than half the current tuition). Your analysis change yet? What about $25,000.

You going to pay those costs for a double major?

Anonymous said...

Awful lot of privileged assumptions by a couple posters here. That may not be a lot of money for your family, but it was a hell of a lot when I was in college.

Anonymous said...

To Anon March 21, 2013 at 10:34 AM: Spiker has done really well at Army so far, if he didnt get the Army job he would have been the obvious choice to replace Donahue. We would probably be in a better place right now. I wonder if he would leave Army to come back?

br2 said...

"I'm going to guess he would owe much more to Cornell next season, and that is why the Masters/Free option makes a ton of sense."

answers your question

Anonymous said...

This thought experiment is a great example of why Rob Pannell is my favorite Cornell athlete of all time. Yes the circumstances are different, but in terms of an athlete giving everything up for his university, there is no competition.

Anonymous said...

Great, just what Amaker needs: a high profile NCAA win to help recruit. Have you seen the names he's lining up for 2014? That doesn't mean he'll land them, but good grief.

Amaker is doing what we had hoped would happen following 2010 but didn't. He's bringing in top tier talent in every class, so that his program will be at the top of the league every year.

The naysayers can say Harvard isn't doing this or doing that, but come on. You can only deny or spin your way out of things for so long. Here's the truth. They've won three straight titles. They just beat a terrific New Mexico team in the NCAA tournament. They're going to be loaded next year and, probably, for the next few years unless Amaker bolts.

So, what are we going to do about it? Because as things stand now, we're eons behind them.

Anonymous said...

So the first poster got his Errick info wrong ... his larger point is still correct. We've watched hideous and ugly games from Bill Courtney for three years. I don't understand how people keep defending his coaching ability. He probably has a roster with more Div I mid-major recruits than any Cornell coach has had in recent history, and all he produced with it was a cupcake. What is the point of such recruits if you can't draw an offense that makes sense? I am urging the players to talk to Andy Noel if they have serious concerns. There were so many unwatchable games this season, it's incredible.

Anonymous said...

ANON 12:39AM-

I give all the credit in the world to Harvard. They were terrific last night. They made all the big plays and then some.

However, I just don't buy New Mexico as "a terrific team." They were the weakest three seed by a good bit, somehow getting pushed above much more tested teams, including Syracuse, Michigan, Saint Louis U, and Wisconsin. And they were playing in their own time zone.
The Lobos stunk, only shooting 37% from the field with two guys 2" taller than Harvard's tallest guy in their starting lineup. It is not clear how much Harvard's defense had to do with that, either.

Let's see what the Crimson can do with a much better (than NM) Arizona team that sports wins over Florida, Miami(FL), and Colorado. The 'Cats did lose a home game to Cal (whom Harvard beat in Berkeley).

Good luck to the Crimson!

Anonymous said...

Hofstra canned their coach after 3 seasons. Just sayin'

Anonymous said...

So what's your point? Well done: you're implicitly comparing us to a mediocre academic school with a program that went 7-22 and had four players arrested for burglary.

This anonymous bashing of the coach is silly. It's been demonstrated that a number of these posters don't even know basic facts about the program (or even basic basketball) and are calling for blood. There are reasonable critiques one can make, but most (not all) arent making them. Courtney will be judged in due course; but not in the ridiculous time period some of you are calling for.

Anonymous said...

ANON- 12:24AM

Right on. Siena did the same.

Anonymous said...

It has been demonstrated that pretentious individuals simply accuse people of not knowing anything about basketball rather than provide actual concrete examples of how Courtney has been an effective coach for the last three seasons.

Anonymous said...

Look at what Enfield has done for FGCU. He has implemented a style of offense predicated on ball movement and penetration. Can we please just get a coach with a semblance of an offensive identity? Isolation DOES NOT COUNT.